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When you have repented of your sins and asked Jesus into your heart, is that enough to get a person saved?  Do you also have to believe that you're saved at that point even if you see no indications that anything has changed?  Should a person be concerned if they have asked God for forgiveness but God's love still seems like it's not real to them?

What should someone expect from salvation?  Is it a life changing experience or is it much more subtle than that?  Do some people have a strong born again experience at salvation and others don't and if you don't should you be concerned?

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2 minutes ago, JohnKing67 said:

When you have repented of your sins and asked Jesus into your heart, is that enough to get a person saved?  Do you also have to believe that you're saved at that point even if you see no indications that anything has changed?  Should a person be concerned if they have asked God for forgiveness but God's love still seems like it's not real to them?

What should someone expect from salvation?  Is it a life changing experience or is it much more subtle than that?  Do some people have a strong born again experience at salvation and others don't and if you don't should you be concerned?

Welcome to Worthy John.

Notice nothing you said had any reference to what Jesus did only to what we do or experience.

He is the Savior who is our sin substitute. Salvation is found in a Person not in our experiences. Our faith is in Him, not ourselves.

Mine was a life changing experience and continues to be for about 44 years, but my faith is not in that but in Him.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 NKJV
[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, [2] by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. [3] For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, [4] and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,

 

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Thanks for the reply, 

I'm glad you had a life changing experience.  For me, I can't say that I've ever had any experience at all.  I guess my question is if someone doesn't have that experience, are they just as saved as someone who does?  Is it possible to live the Christian life entirely on what Jesus did for us or do we need other things, like God's love and presence in our lives?

   

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1 hour ago, JohnKing67 said:

Thanks for the reply, 

I'm glad you had a life changing experience.  For me, I can't say that I've ever had any experience at all.  I guess my question is if someone doesn't have that experience, are they just as saved as someone who does?  Is it possible to live the Christian life entirely on what Jesus did for us or do we need other things, like God's love and presence in our lives?

   

Again, our salvation has nothing to do with our experiences (all we have to offer to the equation is our sin) but has everything to do with Jesus Christ and Him crucified FOR OUR SINS and risen from the dead. See Him, not US and if the changes will come, it will come as a result not a cause of our already secured salvation.

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1 hour ago, JohnKing67 said:

Thanks for the reply, 

I'm glad you had a life changing experience.  For me, I can't say that I've ever had any experience at all.  I guess my question is if someone doesn't have that experience, are they just as saved as someone who does?  Is it possible to live the Christian life entirely on what Jesus did for us or do we need other things, like God's love and presence in our lives?

   

Hello JohnKing67! Welcome to Worthy. 

Christ's Blood shed on the Cross to pay the wages of sin for all who believe in Him, God's Love and Presence are all one in the same, not exclusive of each other. It is no longer a matter of what you"need" once you become Born Again, but what you should desire; to become Christ like. Yes, it is an impossible goal to achieve on your own, but making every effort to achieve it none the less is more than doable for everyone who believes. You cannot attain that perfection on your own, however if in your heart you are a true believer, try to walk in the Holy Spirit as much as you are able, Christ will bring you to perfection. This is Salvation, God's Love, and His presence in you at all times.

John 14:20 New King James Version (NKJV)

20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.

1 John 3:1 New King James Version (NKJV)

The Command to Love

3 Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of [a]God! Therefore the world does not know [b]us, because it did not know Him.

Romans 5:8 New King James Version (NKJV)

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 10:9-10 New King James Version (NKJV)

that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Galatians 2:20 New King James Version (NKJV)

20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Hope this answers you question JohnKing57

Cheers!!! :)

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5 hours ago, JohnKing67 said:

When you have repented of your sins and asked Jesus into your heart, is that enough to get a person saved?  Do you also have to believe that you're saved at that point even if you see no indications that anything has changed?  Should a person be concerned if they have asked God for forgiveness but God's love still seems like it's not real to them?

What should someone expect from salvation?  Is it a life changing experience or is it much more subtle than that?  Do some people have a strong born again experience at salvation and others don't and if you don't should you be concerned?

God desires us to know Him, to have a relationship with Him.  The Book says the fear of The LORD is the beginning of knowledge.  pursue God in prayer, and desire to Live as He commands.  you will mess up, but keep going.  Cry out to Him day and night until you have this knowledge of Him.  and keep in mind God dont do the same with everyone, some people He takes them fast, some slow.  In my case I had an "experience" at the time of salvation but it was not until some time later that I really knew God.  Things take time, and everything is in His time.  Everyone is different.  take me for example, I can be quite stubborn sometimes, I really do try not to be but sometimes it dont work out for me.  I have noticed on certain things God has me in suspense on and its not for awhile before I see where He is taking me or what He is showing me.  And i tend to have a hard time growing in Him in certain areas.  but His way with me is very through, and I dont see Him doing this with others.  When He is done the lesson takes real well.  it has made me become more patient also.  everything God does is for a reason and His reason is Good.  Trust Him, because He always has your best intentions at heart.  Another part of trusting Him is taking Him at His Word, believing Him.  He never lies and If He said it He will honor it.  100% of the time. 

For a new believer trusting and Believing Him can be a hard thing to do.  I went thru it.  I was not saved in a church, I was locked up.  but when i started going to church I always wanted to makes sure i prayed the sinners prayer/salvation prayer at alter call.  I never went up but i prayed it.  I used to think, this time it took for sure.  for sure i am saved now.  A brother that God had preach the Gospel to me told me of His testimony of this same thing.  He did used to go up every sunday to have the preacher or one of the deacons pray for his salvation.  He said after quite a few times of doing this God spoke to him.  He said, "Whats are you doing?  I already saved you!"  he told me that was when He really believed it and never went up again.  Its quite common to have doubt until you have walked with God awhile and you learn to trust Him, and that He is trustworthy.  Just keep seeking God, and never give up until you do know Him.  and once you do, you will be so glad. 

Hosea 10:12  Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD, till he come and rain righteousness upon you.
 

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14 hours ago, JohnKing67 said:

Thanks for the reply, 

I'm glad you had a life changing experience.  For me, I can't say that I've ever had any experience at all.  I guess my question is if someone doesn't have that experience, are they just as saved as someone who does?  Is it possible to live the Christian life entirely on what Jesus did for us or do we need other things, like God's love and presence in our lives?

   

 

Please make sure you get an early understanding of what true Christianity is—- and isn’t. It will spare you much confusion and needless worry down the road. Google Andrew Farley will the real Christianity please stand up.   

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True salvation comes at the end of brokenness. Did you feel a sense of brokenness, hopelessness, an understanding of how you had wronged God and could do nothing to save yourself from that? Following that is the understanding of the suffering Christ went through for our sakes, when He certainly did not have to. This should lead to a desire to change one's life in a fundamental way. True salvation does not come from works, but it should certainly lead us to them.

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22 hours ago, JohnKing67 said:

When you have repented of your sins and asked Jesus into your heart, is that enough to get a person saved?  Do you also have to believe that you're saved at that point even if you see no indications that anything has changed?  Should a person be concerned if they have asked God for forgiveness but God's love still seems like it's not real to them?

What should someone expect from salvation?  Is it a life changing experience or is it much more subtle than that?  Do some people have a strong born again experience at salvation and others don't and if you don't should you be concerned?

To be saved a person must believe Jesus.. His teachings.. And that person must trust the the atonement Jesus secured by His death on the cross secures for them forgiveness and eternal life in Gods perfect existence..

So Believing and  Trusting Jesus is the Key to Eternal life..

There are two kinds of people in this world forgiven sinners and un-forgiven sinners.. Make sure you are one of the forgiven ones..

My experience of salvation is a complete change in my Point of View of life and this world.. 

Lacking trust that Jesus secured ones salvation is something that should greatly concern anyone who claims to believe Jesus..  Doubting the salvation Jesus secured is like saying that Jesus is a liar and a fake and what He went through the save us was pointless.. 

Our confidence should never be based on ourselves and how worthy or unworthy we feel about our salvation.. Our confidence should always be based on Jesus and His worthiness..

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