gerhard eber Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/11/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2018 Confession of Faith I believe in God, the Almighty, Father, Creator of heavens and earth, and in Jesus Christ his only-begotten Son, our Lord, conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, who under Pontius Pilate suffered and was crucified, who descended into hell, died and was buried and on the third day according to the Scriptures rose from the dead, who ascended to heaven and sits on the right hand of the power of God, hence He shall come to judge the living and the dead, I believe in the Holy Spirit; I believe one Christian Church of the elect, the holy communion of believers, the forgiveness of sin, the everlasting life and the resurrection, in the glorified body of flesh. I believe the Scriptures, the true, only and closed canon of authority for and in the faith, doctrine and living. God speaks in the Scriptures through his Spirit in the Congregation of the Son in Whom we have life. The Election of God : The reconciliation and justification in Jesus Christ of those according to God’s Eternal Predestination and Purpose in Covenant of Grace elected and in the Baptism of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit sealed and attested in regeneration and sanctification of repentance and conversion, of redemption from sin, and of growth and perseverance in faith. The Lord’s Supper of bread, wine and the washing of feet, as through faith partaking of Jesus Christ, of his body and of his blood, his Salvation proclaiming and Return expecting. The Lord’s Day the Sabbath of the Lord thy God, for God concerning the Seventh Day thus spoke, and God on the Seventh Day from all his works rested according to the working of the exceeding greatness of his mighty power which He wrought in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and finished all his works He had made to reign, the King, for ever and ever. Sabbaths’ Feast of Christ Home Assemblies Reformed Protestant Faith To joy in the Fellowship of Christians persuaded by God of the sanctity of the Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD your God for to be the Lord Jesus’ Day of Worship-Rest. The urgency of Sabbaths’ celebration for the Christian Faith and Church, springs from the knowledge of the energy of God’s operation in the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Ephesians 1:17-23. The Sabbath, its engagement and enjoyment, are grounded in Divine Election and Predestination and realised in the “Gospel of God concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord”, whom God the Father “Declared the Son of God with Power according to the Spirit of Holiness by resurrection from the dead:— by Whom we have received Grace for the obedience of the Faith for His Name among all nations, among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ, to the end ye may be established and comforted by the mutual faith in the Gospel of His Son.” Romans 1:1...12. Therefore we remember and celebrate “The Lord’s Day”, Sabbaths’ Eating and Drinking of the Lord’s Feast, holding to the Head Nourishment being ministered, growing with the growth of God, proclaiming Jesus Christ Raised from the dead. (Col2:12-19) “Where two or three are gathered together in My Name, there I am in the midst of them.” We are not a ‘church’ – new, or, another! We do not take money or favours! We don’t have nor desire an ‘earthly tabernacle’ to worship! We do not want ‘growth’ in numbers! We do not ‘count the nation’ or record attendance! We do not baptise! We do not convert! We are few, and will stay few. We believe because God had given us faith first. We love because God first loved us. We love the Fellowship of Christ, and in Christ. We love the Name of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. We love the fear of God and His Word Proclaimed. We love the pure Gospel of God’s free Grace. We love the knowledge and increase in the knowledge of Christ. We are not ashamed of, nor let ourselves be judged with regard to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. (Ro1:16, Col2:16) Therefore we remember and celebrate “The Lord’s Day” Sabbaths’ Eating and Drinking of the Lord’s Feast, holding to the Head, Nourishment being ministered, growing with the growth of God, proclaiming Jesus Christ Raised from the dead. (Col2:12-19) “For this cause we do not cease to pray that ye might be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.” (Col1:9) ‘Singing in our heart to the Lord’, we ‘sing with the spirit and with understanding’, ‘speaking to ourselves in Psalms’. (Col3:16, 1Cor14:15, Eph5:9,19) We abhor self-righteousness or ‘legalism’. We abhor self-satisfaction or complacency. We abhor boasting or distinction of men. Join in Sabbath’s Celebration and Fellowship through the study and proclamation of the Word ‘according to the Scriptures’... Sola fides Sola gratia Solus Christus Soli Deo Gloria Sola Scriptura … TULIP … … OSAS … “O that I may know HIM, and, the POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION” ---THEN I shall be a believer of the Sabbath, “the day the Seventh Day Sabbath-of-the-LORD GOD”. O Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner! 3, We lament and reject the (sectarian) disregard and denial of the historical Christian Church as The One Catholic Holy Communion of Believers and Body of Christ's Own of all times and all peoples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.56 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2018 Come join us in the Creeds: https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/212991-the-christian-creeds/?tab=comments#comment-2846575 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Paul described those that worry about certain days to do this or that and those that worry about what foods to eat as “ weak Christians”. We are told to put up with them....we are never told to let them run the church. . Edited August 20, 2018 by Blood Bought 1953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerhard eber Posted August 21, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/11/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) On 8/20/2018 at 8:18 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said: Paul described those that worry about certain days to do this or that and those that worry about what foods to eat as “ weak Christians”. We are told to put up with them....we are never told to let them run the church. We believe: "Christ rose again the third day according to the SCRIPTURES..." 1Corinthians 15:4 "The morning after the Preparation .. the sepulchre made sure unto the third day .. suddenly IN FULLNESS OF THE SABBATH IN THE VERY MID-AFTERNOON DAYLIGHT OVERHEAD INCLINING TOWARDS the First Day of the week .. the angel of the Lord cast the stone from the door..." Matthew 27:64, 28:1-4 "So WHEN this ... mortal--our Lord Jesus Christ--put on immortality, THEN, was brought to pass God's declaration that is WRITTEN : Death is swallowed up in Victory .. death the last enemy is destroyed!" 1Corinthians 15:54,26 "Thou in thy mercy hast led forth the people Thou hast redeemed: Thou hast guided them in Thy Strength unto Thy Holy Habitation." Exodus 15:13" "THEN sang Moses and the children of Israel .. they which were redeemed from the earth .. THIS SONG .. The Song of Moses and of the Lamb .. a New Song before the Throne .. I will sing unto the LORD for He hath triumphed gloriously .. the LORD is my Strength and Song, the LORD is become my Salvation and He is my GOD, and I will prepare Him an home, the house of my father's GOD, and we will exalt Him." Revelation 14:3; 15:3 Exodus 15:1,2 "Christ blotted out the damning law against us; and putting off and ruining the rulers and the authorities [of darkness 1:13], He publicly held them up to shame, triumphing over them in it. [If ye then be raised with Christ 3:1], THEN THEREFORE, don’t you let yourselves be judged and condemned by anyone (of the world 2:8, 20) in your eating and drinking or with regard to your eating and drinking of feast, whether of month’s or of Sabbaths’ (weekly Seventh Day occurrence and recurrence – σαββάτων)—all which shadows forth what soon must be, the BODY and SUBSTANCE OF CHRIST! Let no man not holding to the Head [but] puffed up by his fleshly mind, who conceitedly meddles in what he knows nothing about (the mystery which is Christ 1:28), with his pretentious humility and angelic worship beguile you (with enticing words 2:4) of your reward. Because holding to the Head nourishment being ministered, all the Body (of Christ’s Own 1:18) by joints and bands [of faith 2:12 Hosea 11:4; peace Ephesians 4:3; and charity Colossians 3:14], and knit together (in love 2:2), will grow with the growth of God." Edited August 21, 2018 by gerhard eber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerhard eber Posted August 21, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/11/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) "What then shall we say of these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also FREELY GIVE us all things? WHO SHALL LAY ANYTHING TO THE CHARGE OF GOD'S ELECT? IT IS GOD THAT JUSTIFIETH! Who is he that condemneth? IT IS CHRIST who having died, rather, who, having been RAISED, is at the Right Hand of God and in fact supplicates on behalf of us." So I'll gladly be one of the “weak Christians”. Seems God loves to put up with us....He'll never let the 'strong Christians'--usually Sunday Christian--run our church, thank God! Edited August 21, 2018 by gerhard eber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerhard eber Posted August 21, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/11/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) "All who confess that Jesus is the Son of God have God living in them, and they live in God." (1 John 4:15). "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar. .. For this Commandment have we from Him, That who loveth God love his brother also." (1 John 4:20,21). "The one, the very same who confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, the One, the very God, stays in him, and he, stays, in God." 1 John 4:15. And so again, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar" and twister of God's Word. FresnoJoe said, '~When I get on my high horse, I usually find Jesus rides off on his donkey~' Edited August 22, 2018 by gerhard eber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Miron Posted August 21, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 194 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 9:39 PM, gerhard eber said: Confession of Faith I believe in God, the Almighty, Father, Creator of heavens and earth, and in Jesus Christ his only-begotten Son, our Lord, conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, who under Pontius Pilate suffered and was crucified, who descended into hell, died and was buried and on the third day according to the Scriptures rose from the dead, who ascended to heaven and sits on the right hand of the power of God, hence He shall come to judge the living and the dead, I believe in the Holy Spirit; I believe one Christian Church of the elect, the holy communion of believers, the forgiveness of sin, the everlasting life and the resurrection, in the glorified body of flesh. I believe the Scriptures, the true, only and closed canon of authority for and in the faith, doctrine and living. God speaks in the Scriptures through his Spirit in the Congregation of the Son in Whom we have life. The Election of God : The reconciliation and justification in Jesus Christ of those according to God’s Eternal Predestination and Purpose in Covenant of Grace elected and in the Baptism of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit sealed and attested in regeneration and sanctification of repentance and conversion, of redemption from sin, and of growth and perseverance in faith. The Lord’s Supper of bread, wine and the washing of feet, as through faith partaking of Jesus Christ, of his body and of his blood, his Salvation proclaiming and Return expecting. The Lord’s Day the Sabbath of the Lord thy God, for God concerning the Seventh Day thus spoke, and God on the Seventh Day from all his works rested according to the working of the exceeding greatness of his mighty power which He wrought in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and finished all his works He had made to reign, the King, for ever and ever. Sabbaths’ Feast of Christ Home Assemblies Reformed Protestant Faith To joy in the Fellowship of Christians persuaded by God of the sanctity of the Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD your God for to be the Lord Jesus’ Day of Worship-Rest. The urgency of Sabbaths’ celebration for the Christian Faith and Church, springs from the knowledge of the energy of God’s operation in the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Ephesians 1:17-23. The Sabbath, its engagement and enjoyment, are grounded in Divine Election and Predestination and realised in the “Gospel of God concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord”, whom God the Father “Declared the Son of God with Power according to the Spirit of Holiness by resurrection from the dead:— by Whom we have received Grace for the obedience of the Faith for His Name among all nations, among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ, to the end ye may be established and comforted by the mutual faith in the Gospel of His Son.” Romans 1:1...12. Therefore we remember and celebrate “The Lord’s Day”, Sabbaths’ Eating and Drinking of the Lord’s Feast, holding to the Head Nourishment being ministered, growing with the growth of God, proclaiming Jesus Christ Raised from the dead. (Col2:12-19) “Where two or three are gathered together in My Name, there I am in the midst of them.” We are not a ‘church’ – new, or, another! We do not take money or favours! We don’t have nor desire an ‘earthly tabernacle’ to worship! We do not want ‘growth’ in numbers! We do not ‘count the nation’ or record attendance! We do not baptise! We do not convert! We are few, and will stay few. We believe because God had given us faith first. We love because God first loved us. We love the Fellowship of Christ, and in Christ. We love the Name of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. We love the fear of God and His Word Proclaimed. We love the pure Gospel of God’s free Grace. We love the knowledge and increase in the knowledge of Christ. We are not ashamed of, nor let ourselves be judged with regard to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. (Ro1:16, Col2:16) Therefore we remember and celebrate “The Lord’s Day” Sabbaths’ Eating and Drinking of the Lord’s Feast, holding to the Head, Nourishment being ministered, growing with the growth of God, proclaiming Jesus Christ Raised from the dead. (Col2:12-19) “For this cause we do not cease to pray that ye might be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.” (Col1:9) ‘Singing in our heart to the Lord’, we ‘sing with the spirit and with understanding’, ‘speaking to ourselves in Psalms’. (Col3:16, 1Cor14:15, Eph5:9,19) We abhor self-righteousness or ‘legalism’. We abhor self-satisfaction or complacency. We abhor boasting or distinction of men. Join in Sabbath’s Celebration and Fellowship through the study and proclamation of the Word ‘according to the Scriptures’... Sola fides Sola gratia Solus Christus Soli Deo Gloria Sola Scriptura … TULIP … … OSAS … “O that I may know HIM, and, the POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION” ---THEN I shall be a believer of the Sabbath, “the day the Seventh Day Sabbath-of-the-LORD GOD”. O Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner! 3, We lament and reject the (sectarian) disregard and denial of the historical Christian Church as The One Catholic Holy Communion of Believers and Body of Christ's Own of all times and all peoples. Dear friend in Christ; You began with "A CREED" Here for your edification {without sola's] is the original one { A CATHOLIC PRAYER FROM THE COUNCIL IF NICEA IN 425 AD {that about 1,000 before Calvin} Nicene Creed We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten not made, one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. You see friend TRUTH {"I Am the Way and the TRUTH and the Life"} are all singular tense. May Jesus guide our Life oaths As for "the Tulip" PLEASE do yourself a favor and read this site: http://heresies.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/calvinism.html God Bless you, Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted August 21, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 21, 2018 John 3:16–18 (AV) 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerhard eber Posted August 22, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/11/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Patrick Miron said: You see friend TRUTH {"I Am the Way and the TRUTH and the Life"} are all singular tense. May Jesus guide our Life oaths As for "the Tulip" PLEASE do yourself a favor and read this site: Know and confess the same Confession, all are the same of the only God Creator and Saviour Jesus Christ. This is one more you may count. And once again, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar." Don't call me '~friend~' of HATE! Edited August 22, 2018 by gerhard eber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerhard eber Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/11/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) On 8/22/2018 at 1:58 AM, JohnD said: John 3:16–18 (AV) 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Absolutely! "Therefore, If JESUS gave them rest, THERE, THEN, and THEREFORE, for the People of God remains a Sabbath Rest Day to enjoy BECAUSE HE IS ENTERED INTO HIS OWN REST EVEN AS GOD from all his works rested .. THE WORD OF GOD BEING ALIVE and WORKING sharper than any two-edged sword to the judgement and thoughts and intentions of the heart (of men meant) to divide apart his soul and spirit and joints and marrow." "Christ having TRIUMPHED IN IT", HIS SUFFERING OF DEATH, "let no man judge or condemn you with regard to eating and drinking of Sabbaths' Feast of Christ the Substance .. and Nourishment ministered..." Hebrews 4:9-12 Colossians 2: 12-19. Edited August 23, 2018 by gerhard eber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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