Love, Righteousness and being a peace maker.

[jeremiah1five]

12 hours ago, Not me said:

We are new creations, we are to walk in newness of life. To hold to our sinfulness or the old creation is to not understand what our salvation in Christ consists of. 

Much love in Christ, Not me 

Not me, we are new creations - but only two-thirds saved: soul and human spirit.

We await the twinkle-twinkle of an eye and then our bodies will be saved/redeemed.

We were contemplated in the Mind of God in Trinity, placed in the loins of Adam to be born at the appointed TIME, and born again at the appointed TIME - only to be brought back into Trinity from whence we were first contemplated.

We are STILL in this body of this death.

[jeremiah1five]

53 minutes ago, Not me said:

2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV)
Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

As scripture says “all things have become new” and we are to walk in that newness. 

And again; 

Philippians 3:13 (NASB)
Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of [it] yet; but one thing [I do:] forgetting what [lies] behind and reaching forward to what [lies] ahead,

We are told to “forget what lies behind and reach forward” 

for to continuely rehash what happened or you did yesterday is not living in faith today and will cause you to keep your eyes or self rather than on Christ. And only as you forget about yourself (deny self, which is what true repentance is,- turning from self to God) and keep your eyes on Christ can and will you be formed into His image. 

Much love in Christ, Not me 

If I may...

Not me, faith rests on knowledge - as does much of everything in our confidence-walk. Every true-born of God has a testimony - even Saul/Paul. 

God ordains a measure of faith or trust in every believer. Some have more knowledge and therefore more faith, others have less knowledge and therefore less faith.

We receive all we are to become in Christ when first saved. Then, God brings us from glory to glory into that measure or portion as we grow in Him.

When we reach that portion/measure He then takes us home.

True repentance is to do a 180 degree turn and go the opposite. 

No man can come to God and His Christ unless God allows/permits it. God is Sovereign. Even Lucifer is STILL an obedient servant of God. 

The image of God is not Adam, it is Christ. There is no better image of a Father than a Son. "Let us make man in our image" is God looking forward to the new man in Christ. We are being conformed into the image of Christ, not Adam. 

I hope this helps.

[jeremiah1five]

16 hours ago, Not me said:

Your more than welcome Debp.   As my mother in the faith use to tell me “God can not bless a lie”

and we all want the blessings of God on our life’s. 

Much love in Christ, Not me

Wise mother. Neither does the Spirit of Truth use lies to raise a child of God. 

If we err on doctrine upon which we are raised then we harm ourselves and others.

First and foremost our growing is based on Truth ('doctrine' 2 Tim. 3:16-17).

[jeremiah1five]

Not me...if I may also add....

"Blessed are the peacemakers" has nothing to do with making peace between two persons. The blessing is God disarming us and making peace with His beloved people whose names are in the book of life of the lamb slain....

All God is doing in TIME is preparing bodies to go with those names.

[Not me]

47 minutes ago, jeremiah1five said:

Hi Not me.

Of course God is a respecter of persons:

Genesis 4:4-5 (KJV)
⁴  And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel (the person) and to his offering:
⁵  But unto Cain (the person) and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

For over 4000 years God had respect to the Covenant people from Adam to Abel to Moses to Abraham - and his descendants. 

Then, God was to bring Gentiles in 'en masse' which is the context of Peter's statement, otherwise, God has had His favorites.

 

It seems that we need to understand what scripture means when it says; 

Romans 2:11 (KJV)
For there is no respect of persons with God.

again;

Ephesians 6:9 (KJV)
And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

again;

Colossians 3:25 (KJV)
But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

and there are a few others; 

my understanding is that God has given Christ to mankind and “whosoever will may come” and anyone can have as much of Christ as their heart cry’s for. For scripture says; “ you shall find me when you search for me with all your heart.”  

God does  show respect to man’s behavior, those that do righteousness He blesses, those that do unrighteousness not. 

44 minutes ago, jeremiah1five said:

Not me, we are new creations - but only two-thirds saved: soul and human spirit.

We await the twinkle-twinkle of an eye and then our bodies will be saved/redeemed.

We were contemplated in the Mind of God in Trinity, placed in the loins of Adam to be born at the appointed TIME, and born again at the appointed TIME - only to be brought back into Trinity from whence we were first contemplated.

We are STILL in this body of this death.

It is true we await the redemption of our body’s but the shell we live in is not the “body of this death” we are  told to put off. It is the old man  or the fallen nature we are told to put off and put on new man so we might walk in newness of life. Hereby righteousness would be manifested in our life’s. We are saved to have Christ manifested in our life’s in the here and now. 

34 minutes ago, jeremiah1five said:

If I may...

Not me, faith rests on knowledge - as does much of everything in our confidence-walk. Every true-born of God has a testimony - even Saul/Paul. 

God ordains a measure of faith or trust in every believer. Some have more knowledge and therefore more faith, others have less knowledge and therefore less faith.

We receive all we are to become in Christ when first saved. Then, God brings us from glory to glory into that measure or portion as we grow in Him.

When we reach that portion/measure He then takes us home.

True repentance is to do a 180 degree turn and go the opposite. 

No man can come to God and His Christ unless God allows/permits it. God is Sovereign. Even Lucifer is STILL an obedient servant of God. 

The image of God is not Adam, it is Christ. There is no better image of a Father than a Son. "Let us make man in our image" is God looking forward to the new man in Christ. We are being conformed into the image of Christ, not Adam. 

I hope this helps.

A lot here is true and I would agree with. But when we are first born again we are children and are called to grow to maturity.  It is the growth or the forming Christ is a believer that is of first importance. 

31 minutes ago, jeremiah1five said:

Wise mother. Neither does the Spirit of Truth use lies to raise a child of God. 

If we err on doctrine upon which we are raised then we harm ourselves and others.

First and foremost our growing is based on Truth ('doctrine' 2 Tim. 3:16-17).

Yes she was. She had a personal relationship with Christ and to this day I love her dearly. 

27 minutes ago, jeremiah1five said:

Not me...if I may also add....

"Blessed are the peacemakers" has nothing to do with making peace between two persons. The blessing is God disarming us and making peace with His beloved people whose names are in the book of life of the lamb slain....

All God is doing in TIME is preparing bodies to go with those names.

I’m sorry I will have to disagree “blessed are the peacemakers” has everything to do with the behavior between people(s) 

For Proverbs is loaded with verses that teach peace and how to be a peacemaker.

But I see you are a child of the King and I hope and pray for an increase in Christ in your inmost being as I do for myself and for all that call upon His name. 

 Much love in Christ, Not me

[Not me]

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

You never answered my question...

"How else can repentance be a daily occurrence if we do not see ourselves continually in need of a Savior?"

Or are you one of the 'high and holy ones' without sin?

 

No need to resort to mocking and insults. 

Your response; “how else can” etc. was in response to my statement that we “should not hold to our sinfulnees” etc. which is just saying the same thing as scripture does when it says; to “put off” and again when it says to not look back but to look forward. 

Your question assumes something not stated in my statement that I was saying that one does not need to be in a state of continual repentance. Which is not what I said . What I said was one should not “hold to” their sinfullness” which scripture uses the words “put off”

Much love in Christ, Not me 

Edited October 3, 2018 by Not me

[Not me]

2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

You seem to be mixed up where my 'how else can' statement came from. Let's start from the beginning...

 

 

Now try it again.

 

4 minutes ago, Yowm said:

You seem to be mixed up where my 'how else can' statement came from. Let's start from the beginning...

 

 

Now try it again.

More mocking? 

I have stated my case,  if you think that we are not new creations and that we should hold to our sinfullness I wish you God speed with your relationship with Christ. 

Much love in Christ, Not me 

[Not me]

3 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I indicated we are both just as jeremiah1five did. You seem to want only to see and acknowledge our 'righteous' side through Jesus Christ. What about the other side as indicated?...

Do you deny you still need the continual saving work of Jesus Christ? That is my point.

If your point is that you think I deny the continual saving work of Christ would you be so kind as to show me where I said that? 

But you have not answered my question(s) 

Do you think we are new creations and should we hold or not hold to our sinfulness? 

Much love in Christ, Not me

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Honestly you guys are awesome!! I love figuring stuff out. Peace 

[Not me]

34 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I never said you stated that. I was only going by your responses to my stance that we are BOTH justified and sinner (see Rom 7)

Because you never first answered mine, rather you charged me for asking it out of context or something. Here it is  once again...

"How else can repentance be a daily occurrence if we do not see ourselves continually in need of a Savior?."

Anyhow, what is your plain question?

I did answer your questions in a pior post. Please reread and you will find the answer to your question(s)

This conversation seems to be about human reasoning (words) and not after Christ,  so I bid you fairwell as you feed your personal relationship with Christ as I will do likewise. Blessings to you. 

Much love in Christ, Not me