OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

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17 minutes ago, Butero said:

I have no idea who is better or worse in the way they live.  I hope BB is not living a filthy life.  I know that I am not living a filthy life.  I know that I haven't committed any willful sins in a long time, and any sins done in error are under the blood.  I confess my sins daily, just in case I have done something I didn't know was wrong.  I have no reason to accuse BB of being a filthy sinner, so who knows?  I hope he is not.  

and keeping yourself from sin doesn't save you, only belief

[Heb 13:8]

15 minutes ago, Butero said:

We all believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, and have all accepted him as our Lord and Savior.  I just don't accept your false and powerless doctrine.  Here is what you and BB are confessing to all.  You have confessed you are both filthy sinners.  To anyone reading this thread, do you wish to follow a couple of filthy sinners?  Do you think that the Apostles in the Bible were filthy sinners?  I have trouble believing anyone takes OSAS serious when they see what you are teaching. 

Christ died for the sinner, the carnal mind can't conceive it so it's up to us to make it to heaven ☹️

[Heb 13:8]

17 minutes ago, Butero said:

You make a lot of statements of fact, but they are wrong in most cases, just like your soul sleep doctrine is wrong.  

No James 2 is referring to Godly righteousness. How did Abraham become a friend of God, through works or belief?

You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. 24You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. 25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

[Heb 13:8]

20 minutes ago, Butero said:

Oh, that sounds so spiritual, but it is a bunch of nonsense!  

Placing the focus on Christ and not us is not nonsense

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21 minutes ago, Butero said:

And what happens if you don't love him enough that makes you fearful?  What will that cause to happen?  

Sanctification, discipline and Godly Sorrow........ because He never stops loving us

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21 minutes ago, Butero said:

They do!  Only those who are ready when the Lord returns, because they have not gotten caught up in sin, will go in the rapture.  I don't care if you believe that or not.  That is what the Bible teaches.  We are to watch and pray always that we will be accounted worthy to escape all the things to come upon the earth.  No, we are not automatically worthy to escape.  

Right, and the oil in Matt 25 represents the HS. You are either born again or not, those who are not will get left behind

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22 minutes ago, Butero said:

True, but we won't unless the Father chooses to reveal his Son to us, and he doesn't do that to everyone.  That is why some believe in Christ and others do not.  

Even to the ignorant in which the seed has already been planted but refuse to believe

[Heb 13:8]

21 minutes ago, Butero said:

His warning was over people that were turning to the specific portions of the law of Moses dealing with Israel's separation from the unclean and idol worshipping gentiles.  It wasn't dealing with God's moral code.  This same Paul gave us a list in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 of sins that will guarantee we will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, and another such list in Galatians.  

but you were,were, were 1 Cor 6:11.......

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20 minutes ago, Butero said:

No power for OSAS believers

Think again. j/k on you. Notice the words lives with you and in you...................

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you

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22 minutes ago, Butero said:

But your doctrine states you could return to a life of debauchery and remain saved, right?  Was the prodigal son saved all along to you, while in the hog pen?  I don't believe he was, but most OSAS believers claim he was.  What do you say?  If he was saved according to your doctrine, you are teaching that a Christian can sin all they want, die in that sinful condition without repenting, and go to heaven.  

No, te devil believes that because he hates God and everything he stand for. The devil condemns believers, God does not