OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

No he didn't.  The thief repented, which is why Jesus saved him.  I believe that had Jesus brought him down from the cross, he would have lived right from that day forward.  

The thief repented by works or through belief?

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

"Save yourselves from this untoward generation"  Acts 2:40  

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful an just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."  1 John 1:9 

Notice that it doesn't say confess your sins to be restored to fellowship, but to be cleansed from all unrighteousness.  If you need cleansing from unrighteousness, that means you have sin on your spiritual garments that were not under the blood.  

and what was the message Butero?

Acts 2:40-41 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

I am glad to hear it.  There is hope for you in spite of the false OSAS doctrine.  

My hope has already been settled at the cross. Most won't wake up until their swimming in the lake of fire

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, Butero said:

I noticed you couldn't refute the scripture I gave you that proves you are wrong.  

Well, there's no difference in beheading's and non-osas. They both tear the body apart

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, 1sheep said:

Oh really? 

You will say anything to prop up your works salvation.

Proverbs 9:10 

¹⁰ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

God puts that healthy dose of fear and also reverence in his reborn saints. 

We OSAS folk dont advocate sinning wilfully. We also dont advocate the yoke that isnt there. It is so sad that your thinking is the " be good religious thinking" the bible belt breeds.

Ive met many like you. 

Faith plus nothing . That is the gospel. Those that are saved could never be lost. Period

Good post.

Tit 3:3-8 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. 4But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

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8 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Yup, or how does one un-bury themselves out of Christ death.

Rom 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

And if the SPIRIT is in you then the body is dead because of sin .    Set those affections above church and not on things of this earth .    Don't let that old man resurrect .

CAUSE HE CAN and sin sure can harden a heart .     Lets remember to exhort one another daily LEST ANY DOES become hardened through the deceitfulness of sin .

Working out our salvation is not about earning it ,   ITS about OBEYING AND FOLLOWING HIM , THE SPIRIT , FAITHFUL TO THE END .

We better get a whole lot more serious about how deadly sin is  .   Folks need to start also POINTING to the POWER of CHRIST .   Reminding folks .

And Christ is able to give aide to us to get us faithfully through any temptation .    Most of us know That JESUS paid the price of our sins on the cross .

WHAT they don't get taught ,   IS that aint the only reason he went to the cross .   THEIR REALLY IS POWER In the blood .

By grace the SPIRIT taught me well in the bible .     But what I see in most folks is that they have some head knowledge ,  I JUST aint seeing the EXPERIENCE of having experienced

this being truly born again .    Cause they got no idea what I mean about the POWER of the BLOOD .   WHEN I was drawn to Christ

and put in the bible and then by grace as I kept reading and loving it , and kept reading something else by grace became very clear .

HOW MUCH I TRULY DID ALL OUT NEED a savoir .     SO I layed in the prone and HE HEARD .     HE heard .     GOD can surely lead a man to the end of self

and truly give a whole new heart .  AND the SPIRIT aint just a six letter word I read about in the bible .   ITS REAL and it gives us all we need , the desire and ABILTY

YES I said ABILITY to overcome all evil .    Not just the idea that is a good idea ,  BUT REAL EXPERIENCE .   Honestly most folks got no idea what this means .

But I have told many times , IF ONE HAS THE SPIRIT , they DO truly have the DESIRE to walk as HE DID , obeying HIM and its a joy and HE gives us power over evil .

Same spirit has me sharing with others .    But you would be amazed at how many would rather reject the idea we have power over evil

and rather either try and earn it  , OR just coast thinking oh I cant stray far from GODS LOVE .    These concepts folks teach today ,   Have broken

down the walls of defense , have got folks just giving up IN SIN and worse saying OH we cant stop sinning , GOD JUST LOVES us anyway and understands .

THIS STUFF GOTTA STOP and FAST .    WHO WE FOLLOW , WHO WE OBEY ,  WE HIS SERVANTS .   END of discussion , cause its truth .   SO lets armour up

Get back to BIBLE ONLY READING .    Goodness I say this like a broken record , yet folks wont listen and would rather heed acronyms , STEAD OF CHRIST .

Let us learn CHRIST .  LET us learn them apostels.  Let us be reminded and refreshed in that bible .   Read revelatoions regular too .

What wonderful sharp reminders to those in error .   What great words of encouragement .    

[Heb 13:8]

3 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

What wonderful sharp reminders to those in error .   What great words of encouragement .    

The one's in error are the one's without the HS. The Revelation 12 sign came to pass on 9/23/17, are you encouraging your brothers and sisters of the soon harpazo rapture? 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5

1 Thess 4 13Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

Something happened....ever hear about a thing called The Cross?

Go back and read what butero typed .     HE said JESUS said if you forgive not you will not be forgiven .

BY what you just said ,   I Guess whatever JESUS taugh on this earth is now obselte AFTER the cross.

WELL how scary is that .   CAUSE before the cross not only did he say that , HE SAID if you believe not in me , you will die in your sins .

IS THAT obsolete now too .   NONE of it is blood bought .  IF A MAN LOVES JESUS HE LOVES ALL HIS SAYINGS .    

This is the stuff that scares the daylights out of me for folks .    We cant pick and choose what JESUS said BEFORE The cross .  WE LOVE IT ALL and feast on it

OR WE Don't LOVE HIM .    yall , can we please just start over in the bible .   

Remember , JESUS told them also TEACHING THEM TO OBERSERVE ALL THINGS , not some , BUT ALL THINGS I HAVE TOLD YOU .

[frienduff thaylorde]

And some of these folks act like I am going to hell .      I aint the one teaching anyone to go around A single saying OF JESUS .

But according to some in the OSAS crowd ,   I said some ,    I AM HEADED TO HELL .    YALL , either we start over In bibles ,  or stay deiceved .  I cant do anything other than warn .

I cant give n increase .     PLEASE lets start over .

[frienduff thaylorde]

8 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The one's in error are the one's without the HS. The Revelation 12 sign came to pass on 9/23/17, are you encouraging your brothers and sisters of the soon harpazo rapture? 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5

1 Thess 4 13Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

WELL its rather ODD THEN that GOD HIMSELF told the church of Ephesus , RETURN to that FIRST LOVE YA ONCE HAD .    DO the FIRST works you once DID .

You dead wrong .   A man can have the SPIRIT , a man can surely have tasted of the world to come .  A man can surely have been made a  parakter of the HOLY GHOST

and still FALL AWAY .   PETER SAID SO and HE quoated A PROVERB that BACKS THIS UP and PROVED IT .     Yall , forget what you learned In churches , forget

what men taught yall, forget acronyms , AND FOR the sake of what is holy and right , GO BACK TO BIBLE ONLY READING .   I AM PLEADING .