Larry H Posted December 17, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 119 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2018 Greetings I believe God created the universe to "bring many sons to glory" in the likeness of His Son. He created the corporeal cosmos to expand an already existing family, the Father and Son, prior to creation. Angles not included. I found it interesting for the last 10 years how my views have changed incredibly. Being introduced to preterism, a road to conditionalism/annhilationism. However the family concept I still hold onto. My former thinking when considering the end results of one's life was that God could take the umbrella atonement and cover whomever He pleases. Now I'm dabbing into universal salvation for all. "bring many sons to glory" Hebrews 2:10 "conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" Romans 8:29 Kind Regards Larry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted December 17, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,946 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,869 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Larry H said: Greetings I believe God created the universe to "bring many sons to glory" in the likeness of His Son. He created the corporeal cosmos to expand an already existing family, the Father and Son, prior to creation. Angles not included. I found it interesting for the last 10 years how my views have changed incredibly. Being introduced to preterism, a road to conditionalism/annhilationism. However the family concept I still hold onto. My former thinking when considering the end results of one's life was that God could take the umbrella atonement and cover whomever He pleases. Now I'm dabbing into universal salvation for all. "bring many sons to glory" Hebrews 2:10 "conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" Romans 8:29 Kind Regards Larry Hi Larry, Welcome to Worthy Forums. Last check yielded 729 mentions of Universalism on this site so dabble away. I don't see how your verses support it though, quite the opposite. I hope you have read the material for newbies and the Terms of Service and will be guided by them. Look forward to your input. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut- Posted December 17, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,673 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 7,358 Days Won: 67 Joined: 04/22/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2018 Welcome to worthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookycolt Posted December 17, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Larry H said: Greetings I believe God created the universe to "bring many sons to glory" in the likeness of His Son. He created the corporeal cosmos to expand an already existing family, the Father and Son, prior to creation. Angles not included. I found it interesting for the last 10 years how my views have changed incredibly. Being introduced to preterism, a road to conditionalism/annhilationism. However the family concept I still hold onto. My former thinking when considering the end results of one's life was that God could take the umbrella atonement and cover whomever He pleases. Now I'm dabbing into universal salvation for all. "bring many sons to glory" Hebrews 2:10 "conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers" Romans 8:29 Kind Regards Larry Hello Larry. You are asking the age old question and the smartest minds who've ever lived have never been able to answer it. All I know is this. Without a doubt, God created me and I couldn't exist without the universe and everything wonderous it does. From solar flares to earthquakes to evolution it is all here so that I can exist. I don't know what's true and what isn't but I do know that I am here. And that is real. So for a basic answer, God created the universe for me and for you and for little Suzy down the street. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patticats Posted December 18, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 65 Topic Count: 575 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,690 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 2,360 Days Won: 9 Joined: 02/18/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shanee Posted December 18, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 55 Topic Count: 109 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,272 Content Per Day: 1.50 Reputation: 10,392 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/05/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/12/1974 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Larry H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 18, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,192 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 18, 2018 will be reading your heart if you write it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPaulG Posted December 18, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 71 Topic Count: 340 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16,834 Content Per Day: 4.72 Reputation: 13,549 Days Won: 81 Joined: 07/24/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/2000 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted December 18, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2018 You and me asking why God created the universe is like your dog asking why you leave the house for 8 hours five out of every seven days. Your dog can not possible understand the answer. So you can ask "why" God does all sorts of things. With some of them the answer is self evident. With others, you will never know in this life. My burning question is not about the universe. It's about man. What makes us so special? I'll find out after I die. There is a lot going on that we have no clue about- and will NEVER understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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