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I think the first thing is the Act of the Holy Spirit thAt takes a heart of stone and transforms it to a contrite, softened heart that opens the eyes of a person and delivers him from the Fools Paradise,where he thinks he is OK and dies not need a Savior.When the eyes are opened, when the “ soil” of the heart is made ready to receive the “ seed” of the Gospel thAt will save him if he believes it and it alone for his Salvation, and Once one sees himself as a lost, Hell - deserving sinner, the rest can pretty much take care of itself.

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21 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

I think the first thing is the Act of the Holy Spirit thAt takes a heart of stone and transforms it to a contrite, softened heart that opens the eyes of a person and delivers him from the Fools Paradise,where he thinks he is OK and dies not need a Savior.When the eyes are opened, when the “ soil” of the heart is made ready to receive the “ seed” of the Gospel thAt will save him if he believes it and it alone for his Salvation, and Once one sees himself as a lost, Hell - deserving sinner, the rest can pretty much take care of itself.

 

Your jumping ahead a bit

 

Do you agree with the state of being at the start of the Salvation journey that I presented? If not, what part and why.

Trying to establish a starting point to discuss how Faith is started.

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We are on the same page.....not worth quibbling over......please proceed.....

 

just out out of curiosity ......have you ever heard this?  “ faith is an ACTION.....based on a BELIEF....sustained by CONFIDENCE, that God will do what He said He will do”

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14 hours ago, faither 2 said:

I'm new to the group and glad to be here.

I thought I would propose a question to you all to get a sense of what your understanding of Faith is, and how it's applied.

I'm sure we all agree, " salvation is by Grace, through Faith ." 

But what is your specific understanding of how Faith is applied that results in recieving the Spirit of Christ?

Thanks .

Faith - trusting and specifically trusting God..  We trust that the Atonement that Jesus secured for the foreignness of our sins does grant us forgiveness of our sins..

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12 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

We are on the same page.....not worth quibbling over......please proceed.....

 

just out out of curiosity ......have you ever heard this?  “ faith is an ACTION.....based on a BELIEF....sustained by CONFIDENCE, that God will do what He said He will do”

The A,B,C's of Faith ?

Is this a good thing in your eyes?

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10 hours ago, Adstar said:

Faith - trusting and specifically trusting God..  We trust that the Atonement that Jesus secured for the foreignness of our sins does grant us forgiveness of our sins..

Thanks Adstar.

Do you agree with the beginning state of being I've presented?

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3 hours ago, faither 2 said:

The A,B,C's of Faith ?

Is this a good thing in your eyes?

 

Yes......it’s what a Faither does.....he practices faith......that’s what the late, great Dr. Gene Scott used to teach....are you familiar with him?

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1 minute ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

Yes......it’s what a Faither does.....he practices faith......that’s what the late, great Dr. Gene Scott used to teach....are you familiar with him?

Yes,. I've studied under His teaching for over 30 years. How do you know Him?

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Used to watch him on C- Band satellite ....I loved him.....quit watching after his death.....his wife tries to carry on with the teaching, but unfortunately, she ain’t no Gene Scott......neither is Joe Cortez, although he is good in his own way.....he tries, but a guy like Scott dies not come around often 

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On ‎1‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 4:36 AM, faither 2 said:

I'm new to the group and glad to be here.

I thought I would propose a question to you all to get a sense of what your understanding of Faith is, and how it's applied.

I'm sure we all agree, " salvation is by Grace, through Faith ." 

But what is your specific understanding of how Faith is applied that results in recieving the Spirit of Christ?

Thanks .

My specific understanding of how faith is applied that results in receiving the Spirit of Christ is that by hearing the Word of God we become willing and obedient to His Will, including that we should abide in Christ and He in us.  

Heb 11:1-2 (ESV)
(1)  Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
(2)  For by it the people of old received their commendation.
Heb 11:1-2 (KJV)
(1)  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
(2)  For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Heb 12:2 (ESV)
(2)  looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.
Heb 12:2 (KJV)
(2)  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Heb 5:8-9 (ESV)
(8)  Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered.
(9)  And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,
Heb 5:8-9 (KJV)
(8)  Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
(9)  And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

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