Shilohsfoal Posted February 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Cletus said: no. the beast will claim to be God set up an idol and steal the worship of God. idols are called abominations in scripture. The antichrist is going to stop the daily offerings. the enemy wants to steal Gods worship.... wants to defeat God... wants to establish his throne above Gods. He gets cast down to earth because he could not defeat the angel he fought... he tries to do the same thing here and ends up loosing again. Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. indeed armed forces of some sort will this man command. they shall stand on his part, it says. would they be standing there if it was a nuke or some kind of bomb? no. they wouldnt be standing. how is the word stand used in the bible concerning military force or otherwise? stand guard, stand fast, etc. this is a temple take over by force. and this military force will pollute the sanctuary. it dont say destroy, but pollute. this word means to profane. look it up and see for yourself. next, the part about desolate/desolation... take away the daily sacrifice. well, where oh where will they take it to? they are not moving it somewhere else they are not allowing it. its prohibited. how will they take away the daily sacrifice if they blow it up? they wont need to take it away then. next it says they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. this is going to be an idol. just as in the book of daniel there was an idol of Nebuchadnezzar. they will place it there in Gods temple. worship of God will cease. an abomination of desolation. there is no weapon. no bomb. the temple will remain and the antichrist will play God until he is cast into the lake of fire. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. what will stand in the holy place is an idol to the antichrist, just like Nebuchadnezzar had an idol to him. It does not say his armed forces are standing there when they bomb jerusalem.It says his are forces shall stand and place the abomination of desolation. Revrlation actually shows his millitary statuoned in jerusalem are dead already.Thier dead bodies lay in the street for tree days when the cloud ascends into the heavens. His millitary occupies jerusalem three and a half years.Thats when the beast arrives i jetusalem and kills them. Daniel plainly states his armed forces place the abomination which causes desolation.And that is a fact thst you csn nit change . https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-31.htm Stop trying to change the word of God and decieving people in so doing. Edited February 21, 2019 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cletus said: Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: here it says the abomination of desolation will be standing. the part about dead bodies in the street for three days is talking about the two witnesses. not even the same topic really. I am not trying to change Gods word or deceive people. I am trying to let he who readeth understand. there is a time and season for everything under the sun. a time to close the mouth, and a time to open the ears. The two witnesses laying in,the street is the same topic. The armed forces which occupy jerusalem are gentiles.They only occupy jerusalem for 42 months. There is 1290 days from,the time the daily sacrifice is abolished till the abomination of desolation is set up.Thats 42 months. After the 42 months is accomplished ,the beast which ascends out of the bottomless pitt takes control of jerusalem. It is at that time the armed forces the king of the north places the abomination that causes desolation. Its as if you dont know what this is. https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm Edited February 21, 2019 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Cletus said: Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: here it says the abomination of desolation will be standing. the part about dead bodies in the street for three days is talking about the two witnesses. not even the same topic really. I am not trying to change Gods word or deceive people. I am trying to let he who readeth understand. there is a time and season for everything under the sun. a time to close the mouth, and a time to open the ears. https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-21.htm Jesus said at the time the abomination of desolation is set up,it would be a time of distress,unequaled since the beginning of the world or ever shall be. You believe a man claiming to be God is worse than what happened to Hiroshima? You also believe a man claiming to be God is worse than anything you can find written in revelation? When the armed forces of the king of the norrh places the abomination that causes desolation ,he is intending to inihilate and uttety make away many and you believe he is going to thatby claiming to be God. Please come back to reality.When you seekto destroy hundrefs of millions of people you dont do it by claiming to be God. https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm The end. Edited February 21, 2019 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted February 21, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,923 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,859 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted February 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Please come back to reality.When you seek to destroy billions of people you dont do it by claiming to be God. Ironically it is God's judgment upon a wicked world, as in the days of Noah and the flood, that fulfills biblical prophecy. Israel, the Jewish nation, the Hebrew people, have experienced a number of desolations caused by abominations. The whole of Jerusalem was considered to be the holy place by the devout among them. It has been surrounded by invading armies on numerous occasions. Apocalypse, the revealing of things pertinent to what will be happening soon. The legalism of the Jews set the stage for them to order and arrange the death of Jesus Christ, Himself a Jew by birth. The increasing lawlessness of modern society is setting the stage for the final showdown, when godlessness and false prophecy will climax and overwhelm the saints. Rev 13:7 (7) It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. Complete Corporate Control. Extreme Executive Enforcement. Total Temporal Tyranny. It's all there in Scripture, and will Christ find faith on earth when He returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) How many billions of souls did the papacy destroy, all the while claiming to be 'god' on earth (or god's representative) ? (and many many 'protestant' or other denominational pastors/ leaders / eveangelists who went along with the papacy - copeland being one of the most outspoken and destructive in the last few years... (and another one too popular to name, who died a year ago or so) Edited February 21, 2019 by simplejeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzan344 Posted February 22, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 54 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/23/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 6:38 AM, Last Daze said: I'm not sure it really matters. The desolation is against the woman of Rev 12 and her offspring. It's carried out by the dragon through the false prophet who speaks like a dragon. The abomination that brings about this desolation is the perception that the false prophet is God, a perception that is based on deceiving signs and wonders and is manifested through the image of the beast (code of conduct) that the deceived people of the world build (collaborate on). Those who don't obey the image are to be put to death. I don't really see the means as consequential. What do you mean regarding the woman of Rev. 12 and her offspring have desolation brought against them? I see in Rev. 12 that she is chased by a flood and is hidden away from satan-dragon. Her children, are chased by the dragon then. "The Woman Persecuted , KJV, Rev. 12: 15-17 …15 Then from the mouth of the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth to swallow up the river that had poured from the dragon’s mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore.…" end quote Berean Study Bible " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 22, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cletus said: 2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. can you explain to me how the beast will sit in the temple of God, capital G, and show himself to be God if the temple is destroyed? there will be armies... surrounding them. 2thes 2:4 says nothing about a beast. According to revelation, Three days after the beast kills the two witnesses and takes Jerusalem, the resurrection takes place. There is also a great earthquake in jerusalem and a cloud adcends from jerusalem into the heavens. The beast which kills the two wittnesses only has control of jerusalem for three and a half days. Do you know what happens when a nuke explodes? There is a great flash of light .A loud noice like thunder.An earthquake.And a cloud that ascends into the heavens. All this at the same time the two witnesses are raised from the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 22, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cletus said: keep studying... and dont give up! you will get it eventually. You believe someone claiming to be God is worse than the plague of hiroshima. You need to consider using common sense some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted February 22, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,923 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,859 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: You believe someone claiming to be God is worse than the plague of hiroshima. Quote: What a lot of ways there are to oppose God, and what a lot of authoritarians have been exalted and exalted themselves to divine status, so another Caesar won't be anything new. But what will be different about this one called "the man of sin" and "the son of perdition" and "that Wicked"? Source: Another Caesar (see below). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 22, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: You believe someone claiming to be God is worse than the plague of hiroshima. Both result in death. In the case of the one world church, the death to billions of souls - much worse than the deaths in hiroshima. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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