JohnD Posted March 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,653 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,836 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) This begs the question, what then is love? The Greeks set out to create a universal language across the conquered world. Love, they determined in this as exacting as could be language is fourfold. Agapeo (perfect), Phileo (brotherly), Storge (friendship), and Eros (sensual). Many define these to this day with examples mostly. I would say Agapeo (agape) is true love. Phileo is camaraderie love usually familial Storge is camaraderie love of close friendship Eros is (IMHO) not love at all. These are varying degrees of selflessness (agape being the greatest / most selfless). Eros is all about self. Most times Eros is what people feel for "their loved ones" and why the divorce courts are so busy. I love how you make ME feel. I believe I would be the best (man or woman) for that person... God help that person when they are not in the will of this Eros feeling person. True love, brotherly love to a lesser degree and friendship love to a lesser degree are about the other person. Edited March 10, 2019 by JohnD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,653 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,836 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2019 I venture to say most marriages are based on Eros. At best... even with an agape basis, marriage is two fallen sin natured individuals agreeing to become one. For life. They seal this with a solemn vow. And even then 100% of people have no idea what they are getting themselves into. I believe the Church would do all a service by conducting marital training to at least give people some idea of what to expect. Warning both men and women about the opposite sex not only in their marriage but in the anti-marriage world around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,653 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,836 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) Role reversal courses where the guys were the pregnant suit for x number of days, where women go to mock jobs and get screamed at by unreasonable bosses who threaten their job and livelihood and their family's well being... Men should learn just how much women work just to maintain a household. 99.99% have no clue. Mock arguments should be arranged switching roles. And they should be taught the RESPONSIBILITIES of bringing new life into the world. And lastly what it would be like married to this person if divorce was not an option. Edited March 10, 2019 by JohnD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted March 10, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 8:18 PM, Kristin said: Does Jesus be with us in marriage. What if you hate your spouse If I were married and had legitimate reason to hate my spouse, I might separate from her. As far as divorce goes: “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery." Matt 19:9 RSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted March 11, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.87 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 11, 2019 No matter who you marry, someday the “ honeymoon” will be over and you’ll just have to learn to live together in peace and mutual respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted March 11, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 10:09 PM, ayin jade said: Titus 2:4-5 And so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled. The bible is clear we are to love our husbands. If you feel you hate him, then you need to work that out and learn to love him again. It is not grounds for biblical divorce. To the one who didnt understand why I posted this scripture, it is to show that women are to love their husbands, and that it takes effort, but it is a command to love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 11, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 957 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,632 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,079 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 11, 2019 There may be strong reason for hate that needs to be dealt with including fleeing the marriage. Hate consumes the hater. It must be dealt with, but just submitting to abuse if there is abuse, just tolerating infidelity is foolish for that will also may well lead to serious physical illness. God is well aware of the hardness of mankind and addresses the men that divorce, giving instruction as how to divorce and the responsibility that comes with it. The idea that a divorced person sins and will not enter the kingdom of heaven is stretched beyond reason when the passage often quoted without overall context of the entirety of the Bible is used as a hammer to repress rather than enlighten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 11, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 957 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,632 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,079 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 11, 2019 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple." So are each of us to hate each other and our selves? Taking a sentence out of a stream of thought and using it as a hammer is a dangerous practice ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted March 13, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Thank you everyone for all the responses. I’ve been unable to respond because of fine reasons. I am going to read through it all. Thank you. I’m glad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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