The word "first resurrection" in Rev 20 which mislead many

[Montana Marv]

Uriah

Only Two Resurrections, That is it.  One Resurrection is for the Just, The Second Resurrection is for the Unjust.  Not all make it to each at the same time. 

At least two entries into the Lake of Fire.  The A/C and False Prophet are the first to experience the Lake of Fire, before the Mill; then following the MILL, Satan and all the other fallen angels and the remainder of the Unjust after the GWT Judgment will experience the LOF.

Similarity with the those who's final destination will be the New Jerusalem.  Christ the First Fruit, then His Bride, then the 70th Week saints, and the 144,000, plus all Israel, followed by the rest of the Just after the Mill.

Only Two Resurrections; the First Resurrection is for all the Just, the Second Resurrection is for all the Unjust.  Not all go into each at the same time. 

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Last Daze]

8 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Uriah

Only Two Resurrections, That is it.  One Resurrection is for the Just, The Second Resurrection is for the Unjust.  Not all make it to each at the same time. 

At least two entries into the Lake of Fire.  The A/C and False Prophet are the first to experience the Lake of Fire, before the Mill; then following the MILL, Satan and all the other fallen angels and the remainder of the Unjust after the GWT Judgment will experience the LOF.

Similarity with the those who's final destination will be the New Jerusalem.  Christ the First Fruit, then His Bride, then the 70th Week saints, and the 144,000, plus all Israel, followed by the rest of the Just after the Mill.

Only Two Resurrections; the First Resurrection is for all the Just, the Second Resurrection is for all the Unjust.  Not all go into each at the same time. 

In Christ

Montana Marv

According to Paul it goes like this:

• For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.  But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, then the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.  1 Corinthians 15:22-24

There are two more occurrences of resurrection yet to take place:

1. Those who are Christ's at His coming.
2. Everyone else after His 1000 year reign.

 

[Montana Marv]

53 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

According to Paul it goes like this:

• For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.  But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, then the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.  1 Corinthians 15:22-24

There are two more occurrences of resurrection yet to take place:

1. Those who are Christ's at His coming.
2. Everyone else after His 1000 year reign.

 

So are both of these the Resurrection for the Just.

A resurrection can be a raising up of the physical body, as Lazarus, later to die.  Or what is happening in the future is a translation from Mortality to Immortality.  A change similar to like the body of Christ, an everlasting body.  Yet the Unjust will also receive their translation in which they will live forever in the LOF.  So ALL are resurrected.  The destination is different.

Now we have to deal with all those born during the Mill and those who come out of the Final Week.  Christ will rule them with a rod of iron.  How many of these will become of the Just, and how many of these will become of the Unjust.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Last Daze]

21 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

So are both of these the Resurrection for the Just.

A resurrection can be a raising up of the physical body, as Lazarus, later to die.  Or what is happening in the future is a translation from Mortality to Immortality.  A change similar to like the body of Christ, an everlasting body.  Yet the Unjust will also receive their translation in which they will live forever in the LOF.  So ALL are resurrected.  The destination is different.

Now we have to deal with all those born during the Mill and those who come out of the Final Week.  Christ will rule them with a rod of iron.  How many of these will become of the Just, and how many of these will become of the Unjust.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I don't disagree.  Everyone gets an immortal resurrection.  That's what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15.  He goes on to tell us the order.  There will be two more resurrections:

1. when Jesus returns.  This will only pertain to the righteous, those who are Christ's.
2. after the millennial kingdom is when everyone else who hasn't been made immortal, both the righteous and unrighteous, puts on immortality.

[Uriah]

21 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Uriah

Only Two Resurrections, That is it.  One Resurrection is for the Just, The Second Resurrection is for the Unjust.  Not all make it to each at the same time. 

At least two entries into the Lake of Fire.  The A/C and False Prophet are the first to experience the Lake of Fire, before the Mill; then following the MILL, Satan and all the other fallen angels and the remainder of the Unjust after the GWT Judgment will experience the LOF.

Similarity with the those who's final destination will be the New Jerusalem.  Christ the First Fruit, then His Bride, then the 70th Week saints, and the 144,000, plus all Israel, followed by the rest of the Just after the Mill.

Only Two Resurrections; the First Resurrection is for all the Just, the Second Resurrection is for all the Unjust.  Not all go into each at the same time. 

In Christ

Montana Marv

Marv

Yes there are only two resurrections supported by scripture. In the first ALL who have died up until that point will be resurrected. The first one has the sheep and goats/ the net / the harvest. There is at that time a separation for two different destinations. Consider that the righteous will be told "enter in...", no waiting for a millennium. After the 1,000 yrs, Satan is cast into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet ARE (for a thousand years already). It can be seen that those in Rev 20 will reign for the millennium. And in Matt. 25 it is at the time He says to believers "enter in" that He tells the others to depart into everlasting fire. (no waiting for 1,000 yrs)

The Great White Throne judgment takes place when Jesus returns. Here is where the the major misunderstanding takes place:

Rev. 20:7-10- (And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.)

These verses are parenthetical as I have designated. They are a digression forward into time from the beginning of the 1,000 yrs to a short time after it is over.

VERSE 11 RETURNS THE READER BACK TO A CONTINUATION OF THINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 1,000 YRS AT THE TIME OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION, THE GREAT WHITE THRONE.

Edited April 30, 2020 by Uriah

[Montana Marv]

13 hours ago, Last Daze said:

I don't disagree.  Everyone gets an immortal resurrection.  That's what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15.  He goes on to tell us the order.  There will be two more resurrections:

1. when Jesus returns.  This will only pertain to the righteous, those who are Christ's.
2. after the millennial kingdom is when everyone else who hasn't been made immortal, both the righteous and unrighteous, puts on immortality.

So you do believe in multiple entries into the Resurrection of the Just.  I just believe there are more than two entries, maybe up to four or more.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, Uriah said:

The Great White Throne judgment takes place when Jesus returns.

The GWT Judgment (only for the lost) occurs after the Mill, just before all unbelievers are cast into the Lake of Fire.  The Bema Seat of Christ (where rewards or crowns are given out) occurs before the onset of the Mill.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

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Oh Lord Jesus we are waiting for You

TO FULFILL

THE TRUE REVELATIONS.

Amen.

 

[Uriah]

7 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

The GWT Judgment (only for the lost) occurs after the Mill, just before all unbelievers are cast into the Lake of Fire.  The Bema Seat of Christ (where rewards or crowns are given out) occurs before the onset of the Mill.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

Thanks Marv

Regardless, I have shown fully supported scriptural clarity for a seamless, non-contradictory explanation of the sequences contained. Your above statement begs the question(s), about Matt. 25 where it says "when the Son of Man shall come in His glory" He will be casting people into the flames. This the same time as when saints are rewarded with "inherit the Kingdom". So the lost AND saved are before Him together, NOT just at the end of the millennium. That is for "the rest of the dead".

Secondly, I have already shown that rewards are given at the 7th trumpet AND people are destroyed at that time as well. 

God bless

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, Uriah said:

Thanks Marv

Regardless, I have shown fully supported scriptural clarity for a seamless, non-contradictory explanation of the sequences contained. Your above statement begs the question(s), about Matt. 25 where it says "when the Son of Man shall come in His glory" He will be casting people into the flames. This the same time as when saints are rewarded with "inherit the Kingdom". So the lost AND saved are before Him together, NOT just at the end of the millennium. That is for "the rest of the dead".

Secondly, I have already shown that rewards are given at the 7th trumpet AND people are destroyed at that time as well. 

God bless

I put my head in the sand.

In Christ

Montana Marv