shortangel Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 first of all Christians are going to be hated for their faith no matter what Jesus even said if the world hates you then know that it hated me first, Jesus alssaid blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake because theirs is the kingdom of Heaven, Jesus even said blessed are those when men vile you persecute you because you follow me rejoice & be exceedingly glad because great is your reward in Heaven because they also persccuted the prophets who were before you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, missmuffet said: The devil, the world and the flesh. way too general of an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, other one said: I will ask you again.... Who are the enemies of God? Everyone who hates God. I will ask you again.... Enemies of God never meant for you to get hurt? Edited April 1, 2019 by Ogner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ogner said: Everyone who hates God. I will ask you again.... Enemies of God never meant for you to get hurt? Perhaps the confusion you are having is due to not taking a closer look at the difference between humans and spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, OneLight said: Perhaps the confusion you are having is due to not taking a closer look at the difference between humans and spirits. Where is this coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Ogner said: Where is this coming from? Your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 48 minutes ago, missmuffet said: God does not love Satan. God hates the wicked. We are to stay away from evil. Romans 12:9 Matthew 6:19:153 Ephesians 5:11 Hosea 9:15 Sometimes no matter what you feel in your heart. With everything inside them, they will hate you... no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SelahSong said: No, it’s not. Is it a sin if somebody loves enemies of God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, other one said: If we are in Christ we are under none of the Old Covenant laws.... only the commands Jesus gave us... when you start mixing the two it causes nothing but confusion. and I stand by the things in red that I posted.... do you really think God would require us to do things he would not himself do. You can't live by the old Covenant laws and be sure of heaven if you are not doing those of the new covenant.... If you are not willing to do as Jesus told us then you are not one of his... and Jesus told us to love our enemies... If you look at the whole chapter Matthew 5 you'll see that's not about we must forgive and love criminals. In Matthew 5:20 Jesus say, "For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." In Matthew 5:21,22 Juses tightens the commandment "‘You shall not murder" In Matthew 5:21,22 Juses tightens the requirements on gift In Matthew 5:27,28 and 31,32 Juses tightens the commandment "‘You shall not commit adultery.’ In Matthew 5:33-37 Jesus tightens the requirements on oath. Attention! Follow the logic. In this verses 38-41 Jesus tightens the principle ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." Now "Two eyes for eye, and two teeth for tooth and coat for shirt.". For example: Exodus 21:18,19, “If people quarrel and one person hits another with a stone or with their fist[d] and the victim does not die but is confined to bed, the one who struck the blow will not be held liable if the other can get up and walk around outside with a staff; however, the guilty party must pay the injured person for any loss of time and see that the victim is completely healed. And Exodus 21:22,23, “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." this principles call for the victim's right to reparation encompassed adequate, effective and prompt reparation proportional to the gravity of the violation and the harm suffered. But now "Two eyes for eye, and two teeth for tooth and coat for shirt." this principles call for the victim's right to reparation encompassed adequate, effective and prompt reparation disproportionate (in favour of a plaintiff) to the gravity of the violation and the harm suffered. Do yoy think Jesus in Mat 5:40 say "If criminals wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat as well"? It means, criminals can sue a victim of a crime. And if criminals want to take his shirt, he must hand over them coat as well. And a victim should be grateful them that they want to hurt Do you think in Mat 5:25 Jesus say to a victim of a crime: "Come to terms quickly with criminals while you are on the way to court, or criminals may hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison." ?? Do you think Jesus could taught us something like this? Which kinds of enemies we must demonstrate love? Do you know whom Jesus is talking about? Do you think Jesus could taught us how to love and forgive criminals, murderer, burglar, rapist... and other villains ? Edited April 1, 2019 by Ogner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SelahSong said: Yes. Ok. I'm with you on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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