angels4u Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, pinacled said: There is also Wise counsel given concerning dusting ones feet off. Live peaceably if possible is also something to consider before telling loved ones to accept abuse. Only a ba'alim would perform such a hate. It's amazing what God will do if you ask Him, I'm in no means suggesting to stay in a abusive situation but you can still love the person knowing the person is lost and in darkness and need Jesus, the abusive people are usually very unhappy ,what can happen if they get in contact with the life? The Light is in us as it is in Jesus,often without words ,we can be a witness,the darkness does not like the light because it exposes sin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,772 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,463 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted April 4, 2019 7 hours ago, missmuffet said: So why do we have an ignore feature on Worthy? Are we to love it when people verbally abuse us and are unkind to us? We pray for them. Some people are at different levels of their walks. Some people do not have the patience or wherewithal to deal with people on the internet. If they wish, they can ignore people. Personally, those who I wish to place on ignore ... I view as a test of my patience and love ... am I passing this test today? Hopefully, this is the goal ... to love as Corinthians describes is a difficult task. 1Co 13:4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 1Co 13:5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 1Co 13:6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 1Co 13:7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. God bless, George 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,772 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,463 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 hours ago, pinacled said: There is also Wise counsel given concerning dusting ones feet off. ... but does this negate love? I don't think so. Oftentimes, it's your love that speaks more than words can ever do! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appy Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 23 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,864 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 2,596 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 2:10 AM, Ogner said: What do you think freedom is? Do you think freedom is the possibility to do evil? Without possibility to do evil, there would be no freedom? He who don't commits evil can never be free? Heaven doesn't have possibility to do evil. So there is no freedom in Heaven? I wish it were always like in Heaven. Do you? We certainly are not robot's or puppets on strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, George said: Two different issues ... before Jesus came ... God was preserving the Jewish race so that the promises of the Jewish Messiah could be fulfilled. The New Testament clearly speaks of loving your enemy. If you refuse to do so ... who's Word are you disobeying? Are you claiming the New Testament clearly speaks of loving antichrists, witch, murderer, burglar, rapist... and other villains ? In your opinion, in the Old Testament God says one thing, and then does the complete opposite? Edited April 4, 2019 by Ogner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brotherdon Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 191 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 87 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, pinacled said: The Lord never asked anyone to forgive a murderer. So I'm not sure of what sort of love you are speaking of. 34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. 35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God. 36 And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar, 37 And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself. 38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, This Is The King Of The Jews. 39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. 44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. 45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst. 46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. 47 Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man. Luke 23 Them was murdering Jesus at that moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, appy said: We certainly are not robot's or puppets on strings. Is everyone robot if don't commits evil ? Have you no idea how should live free and don't commits evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brotherdon Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 191 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 87 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2019 Look at Joseph in Genesis and how he forgave his brothers after what he had been put thru. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brotherdon Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 191 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 87 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, pinacled said: Are you implying you personally know who Yeshua was speaking about? Sorry, but that is what is called inference or eisegesis. "For lack of knowledge....." An example of "love your enemies", is found in the history of kings. At one point in time Saul sought David's life. And never did David forfeit. Nor did David return evil for evil upon Saul. Instead David showed Saul mercy on that fateful day. What eventually befell Saul was an example to all the merciless of the world. No I wasn't there, but I do have 3 words (we will see). Some day all of us will stand before The Great Throne of Judgement and then the True Judge will speak.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 4, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, brotherdon said: 34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Luke 23 Them was murdering Jesus at that moment He said that about Romans. They know not what they do and they were not criminals but hangmans. That's like accuse the hangman in the implementation of a court decision. It was their job. What's your point? Should I assume that's reason to love antichrists, witch, murderer, burglar, rapist... and other villains ? Edited April 4, 2019 by Ogner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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