BibleStudent100 Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 412 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 354 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 The gay financee is merely in attendance and most of the attendees would not even guess at the relationship between the son singing a single song and his male lover. True, the boyfriend of the deceased's son is a sinner, but my church has sinner's every Sunday and we invite them with the goal of encouraging them to change. Perhaps the sticking point is that the son wants to be a part of the proceedings and so in that case would need to upstanding. Could the Pastor have asked the son NOT to have sung. Furthermore, what if the song who wanted to sing was living with his girlfriend in sin; what is the difference between fornication with a female and fornication with a male? Both are sinful actions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted July 25, 2019 My personal take, is that if a church is not willing to host such a funeral in their church, the son can arrange a private memorial elsewhere. Most small restaurants are willing to cater to functions such as these. So there you have it - my two shekels worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTCarroll Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 56 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, LadyKay said: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23 So my thoughts are. Are they canceling the funeral because a person among the guest is a sinner? Would they cancel the funeral for the sins of the other guest as well? Should the church have a policy that sinner are not allowed to attend funerals? Funerals, at less the ones I have attended; have been opportunities for the unsaved to hear the word of God. A church that turns away someone from it's doors for being a sinner is a church that that has lost its way. I agree with your thoughts on this. Would the church had cancelled it if the son was living with another woman not his wife? What about if the son weighed 400 pounds due to his own gluttony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTCarroll Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 56 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Kristin said: I think the church has an obligation to follow the Word of God. Open and obvious rebellion against the Word is wrong. Now I admit I’m no saint, but I’m ashamed of my sin not proud of it. The church must condemn sin because Christ did. That man can sing somewhere else for his dad. IMO Are you saying that churches should not allow anyone openly sinning into their building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTCarroll Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 56 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 hours ago, ayin jade said: Explain how, at a funeral in which the son is gay and will be participating in the funeral event, the church is able to show that homosexuality is wrong? They chose to demonstrate that the church building is not to be used to promote homosexuality. Can you explain how holding the funeral would be promoting homosexuality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, RTCarroll said: I agree with your thoughts on this. Would the church had cancelled it if the son was living with another woman not his wife? What about if the son weighed 400 pounds due to his own gluttony? Thats very inspiring, if i may add how bout the other good looking church workers who actually share curses with others in daily life ? The many non forgiving christians ? the jealous, the porn addicts, drug user, alcoholic, brothel customers, rebellious children, abusive cruel parents ? Arent these people also attend the funeral or can we say those who attend the funeral are holy people ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.33 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, RTCarroll said: Are you saying that churches should not allow anyone openly sinning into their building? And this is where most have failed . While all are welcome to enter into a church to hear truth spoken open sin is to be rebuked . Lest the leaven , leaven the whole lump . The problem is , most churches do not speak pure truth thus those who enter into it in willfull sin , are not convicted . Instead many have created an Atmosphere that allows folks to remain in sin with no REAL conviction of that sin . IN turn these even in sin , having no conviction have only feelings of peace and others around them begin to see their worship as geunuine and folks start accepting them as is and even that maybe its not a sin after all . IF this is not believed , Go look at a lot of seeker friendly churches , they now more and more openly embrace sin and accept it as GOD made them this way . GOD said not to be unequally yoked for good reason . IF a true man of GOD is leading a church , HIS doctrine will be sound . And two things will occur . IF one who is gay comes in , either they will be convicted by the Spirit , by the message and repent and truly accept Christ , or they leave . But if we see folks OPENLY embracing sin in our churches and we do nothing to correct , expect a terrible increase in leaven and expect to be judged for their blood too . We better start doing all to learn fresh again from the bible and that approach . Because many men have long led us in the wrong direction . You be encouraged . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Thats very inspiring, if i may add how bout the other good looking church workers who actually share curses with others in daily life ? The many non forgiving christians ? the jealous, the porn addicts, drug user, alcoholic, brothel customers, rebellious children, abusive cruel parents ? Arent these people also attend the funeral or can we say those who attend the funeral are holy people ? Seriously bro, you think all these sorts of folks are on the 'so-called' list of attendees? C'mon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Well, the son can at least get a small measure of peace having learned it wasn't a real church anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 If it was my church, I wouldn't let a homosexual sing at the funeral or give them any platform to use the funeral to promote their lifestyle. I would let them attend and talk about their Father and would let the so called fiance attend since it is a funeral. It is not like letting them join the church. I do support their right to refuse to allow it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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