nobleseed Posted October 9, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 9, 2019 u know one of the groups of people that Jesus had problems with were not just the pharisees or sadducees but also the physicians at the time. the problem was that what they were doing and their treatments didn't work. their are a couple of occasions where people saw them or were getting treatment that failed and only Jesus could heal them. now it never records any confrontations between Jesus and the physicians and perhaps there weren't any but its obvious in most cases only Jesus could heal the people of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted October 9, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted October 9, 2019 There was the woman that had an issue of blood for many years and couldn't be healed by the physicians of those times. It's a pretty neat passage of scriptures. The accounts are in Matthew and also Luke. Matthew 9:20-22 20And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment: 21For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. 22But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour. KJV Luke 8:43-48 43And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, 44Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched. 45And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? 46And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me. 47And when the woman saw that she was not hid, she came trembling, and falling down before him, she declared unto him before all the people for what cause she had touched him, and how she was healed immediately. 48And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace. KJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted October 9, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,573 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,054 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, nobleseed said: u know one of the groups of people that Jesus had problems with were not just the pharisees or sadducees but also the physicians at the time. the problem was that what they were doing and their treatments didn't work. their are a couple of occasions where people saw them or were getting treatment that failed and only Jesus could heal them. now it never records any confrontations between Jesus and the physicians and perhaps there weren't any but its obvious in most cases only Jesus could heal the people of Israel. I am sorry I have missed how this has made physicians bad. Wasn't a physician the God inspired writer of about one fourth of the new testament; which is perhaps a lengthy prescription of much healing instruction and beneficial guidance and command? ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleseed Posted October 10, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Neighbor said: I am sorry I have missed how this has made physicians bad. Wasn't a physician the God inspired writer of about one fourth of the new testament; which is perhaps a lengthy prescription of much healing instruction and beneficial guidance and command? ??? i am not saying all physicians were but their methods were questionable and often didn't work. doctoring was still in its infancy and there is much they didn't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 10, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 10, 2019 There are some physicians who are competent and some that are not. A person needs to do research and know who they are trusting their body to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted October 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,573 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,054 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 7:53 AM, nobleseed said: u know one of the groups of people that Jesus had problems with were not just the pharisees or sadducees but also the physicians at the time. the problem was that what they were doing and their treatments didn't work. their are a couple of occasions where people saw them or were getting treatment that failed and only Jesus could heal them. now it never records any confrontations between Jesus and the physicians and perhaps there weren't any but its obvious in most cases only Jesus could heal the people of Israel. Hi, Wasn't Jesus the physician being rejected at the time? Isn't "Physician heal yourself" a rejection of the enlightenment from God the Son to man about man's spiritual condition? When Jesus spoke at the synagogue read from the scripture scroll then rolled it up, what was he saying to even us for today if not that man's focus is wrongly placed. For man ( some ) will marvel at the healings of flesh that is still corruptible yet not prepare for that which is eternal. In order to get attention of at least some men God did healings of flesh, but that flesh was still temporal and would still die save but one or two out of all. The healing, the miracle of importance is not that of flesh, but that God alone restores the spirit the soul to a place and to a state that is fully acceptable in the presence of God. God has done that, by God alone. Therein is the healing, there is the miracle, the love in the doing, the mercy and the grace, of God alone. Trouble is not with the doctor of flesh, trouble is rejection by man of God's love grace and mercy, then as it is now. Yet God has saved out many from the just result of His wrath at man's rejection of man's own creator. Doctors then and now are not problems. Rejection of the physician for the soul is. I suspect Jesus deliberately selected among his apostles Luke a physician for the purpose of comparison of physical needs and desire to that which is the eternal need for well being, as well as to alert that the sickness of spirit is what ails to eternal suffering. All need the same healing, the restoration the reconciliation that is in Jesus alone, his blood shed at the cross that many might be covered washed clean made perfect in the sight of God and thus acceptable to him for His company and for worship of him. Anyway, concentrating on miracles for the flesh is interesting I suppose- but only as testimony of the power from the healer of the soul to provide eternal security of the spiritual body and the eternal soul Our Lord and savior Jesus the Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted October 10, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 hours ago, nobleseed said: i am not saying all physicians were but their methods were questionable and often didn't work. doctoring was still in its infancy and there is much they didn't know Luke was a physician. They worked within the knowledge they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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