Obedience

[Blood Bought 1953]

49 minutes ago, Daily verse and quote said:

 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9 (ESV)
 

 

A very strong case can be made that this verses is addressed to the unsaved .....John knew they were in his audience then as they still are today ...

Edited December 11, 2019 by Blood Bought 1953

[Blood Bought 1953]

42 minutes ago, Margo1945 said:

exactly, @Daily verse and quote.. Christ paid the "punishment aka price aka debt" for man's sinfulness, so IF man confesses his sins and asks forgiveness, he/she will be forgiven and sins forgotten AND NO PUNISHMENT METED OUT .. the punishment is paid, not the need to confess and ask forgiveness .. and, @Blood Bought 1953, I know one minister who is now an atheist and does not acknowledge God anymore and another minister who does not admit to having blasphemed the Holy Spirit but his words clearly show more than once that he has .. saved people CAN blaspheme the Holy Spirit and some saved people DO blaspheme the Holy Spirit

 

Why do you assume these guys were saved just because they wore a funny- looking collar,or stood in a pulpit....churches and pulpits are chock - full of Satan’s Ministers......Tons Of False Teachers are out there preaching “ Jesus Saves—- BUT!”

[Blood Bought 1953]

 

Regardless of the lack of obedience and Wisdom portrayed by our Children .....They are STILL our Children......once you make the move from being a “ created creature” of God to becoming a “ Child Of God” By Faith in the Gospel Of Christ , you will ALWAYS be His Child- destined for an Eternity in Heaven....how many welts will be on your butt is up to the individual .....

[Blood Bought 1953]

8 minutes ago, Margo1945 said:

I am not assuming they were saved .. they both claimed to have been saved just as you claim such .. in latter days, many will depart from the faith and such cannot be done unless one was part of the faith .. can't depart from what you were never a part of or in before .. it is a copout to just say that any who do lose their salvation were never saved in the first place .. some may not have been but others were .. one might add that truly saved persons do confess their sinfulness and do ask forgiveness for offending the Lord Whom they claim to have done so much for them in giving His life to pay the punishment, price, debt for their sins and sins of others .. we saved persons are not immune from sinning so when we do, we must repent genuinely and we shall not be punished

 

What you refer to as a “ cop out” is your opinion, and just like any of my opinions, don’t count for much in the end.....

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2 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

exactly, @Daily verse and quote.. Christ paid the "punishment aka price aka debt" for man's sinfulness, so IF man confesses his sins and asks forgiveness, he/she will be forgiven and sins forgotten AND NO PUNISHMENT METED OUT .. the punishment is paid, not the need to confess and ask forgiveness .. and, @Blood Bought 1953, I know one minister who is now an atheist and does not acknowledge God anymore and another minister who does not admit to having blasphemed the Holy Spirit but his words clearly show more than once that he has .. saved people CAN blaspheme the Holy Spirit and some saved people DO blaspheme the Holy Spirit

How sad! It will not be a pretty picture when the pastor you described takes his last breath in this life and comes face-to-face with his Creator. No opportunity to change his mind...it's all over.

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1 hour ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

A very strong case can be made that this verses is addressed to the unsaved .....John knew they were in his audience then as they still are today ...

I agree. But the bible was written for all mankind - both saved and unsaved.

[steve morrow]

*******JEREMIAH 7:8 behold you trust in lying words that cannot profit *******

JOHN 7:16 JESUS answered them and said MY doctrine is not mine but HIS that sent ME --7:17-- if any man will do HIS will he shall know of the doctrine whether it be of GOD or whether I speak of myself  *******7:18-- he that speaketh of himself ---SEEKETH HIS OWN GLORY---but he that seeketh HIS glory that sent him the same is true and ---no unrighteousness is in him

1 JOHN 1:9 if we confess our sins HE is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness 

PROVERBS 8:8 all the words of MY MOUTH are in RIGHTEOUSNESS there is nothing froward or perverse in them 

PSALM 119:144 THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of thy testimonies is everlasting give me understanding and I shall live 

PSALM 119:172 my tongue shall speak of thy word for all thy commandments are RIGHTEOUSNESS 

****ROMANS 1:18 for the wrath of GOD is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness****

REVELATION 2:21 and I gave her space to repent of her fornication and she repented not --2:22--behold I will cast her into a bed and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation except they repent of their deeds --2:23--and I will kill her children with death and all the churches shall know that I am HE which searcheth the reins and hearts and I will give unto every one of you according to your works 

MATTHEW 12:31 wherefore I say unto you all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men but the blasphemy against the holy spirit shall not be forgiven unto men 

2 THESSALONIANS 2:10 and with all deceiveableness of unrighteousness ---IN THEM THAT PERISH--- because they received not the love of the truth that they may be saved 

ACTS 3:22 for moses truly said unto the fathers a prophet shall THE LORD YOUR GOD raise up unto you of your brethren like unto me HIM shall you hear in all things whatsoever HE shall say unto you *******3:23-- and it shall come to pass that every soul which will not hear that prophet --- SHALL BE DESTROYED FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE*******

JOHN 6:63 it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life 

1 CORINTHIANS 15:45 and so it is written the first man adam was made a living soul and the last adam was made a quickening spirit 

*******1 CORINTHIANS 15:46 the first man is of the earth earthy --- THE SECOND MAN IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN*******

1 JOHN 3:10 in this the children of GOD are manifest and the children of the devil whosoever doeth not righteousness ---IS NOT OF GOD--- neither he that loveth not his brother 

*******ACTS 10:34 then peter opened his mouth and said of a truth I perceive that GOD is no respecter of persons *******10:35--but in every nation he that feareth HIM and worketh righteousness ---IS ACCEPTED WITH HIM*******

 

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