Non-Trinitarian Movements

[johnthebaptist]

31 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Are you declaring  the  triunity  to be unGodly; God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, three persons with individual divine identity and not just a force of God?

Do you not believe the Holy Spirit to be  a person of the trinity?

I am trying to understand what it is you are stating.

No, I merely said I embrace all that God and Jesus said in the Bible.

[Neighbor]

On 2/11/2020 at 8:38 PM, Eduard0 said:

My Question is about the importance of 'Jesus' and His Latin Name!

I encountered a movement called 'The Way' a Hebrew roots Movement? Sacred name movement? Southern Baptists Branch.

They call GOD the Father 'YAHUAH' and The SON 'Yahusha' They would call Christians Pagans

Also the sect calls themselves NATSARIM or Nazarenes.. They claim to be saved directly by YAHUAH = YaHuWaH (YHWH)

And Not from Jesus = Yahusha. They call the Transliteration of 'Jesus' a false Name, pagan name.

They sound like a Cult, (Almost like the 7th Day Adventists) Focused Strictly on the OT. And are very knowledgeable & convincing, besides all the red-flags I've witnessed. Even I was almost fooled. Is there any truth to this? I need to know, any help would be great! Thank you!

 

Back to the original subject. 

So many individuals want to have that special something that makes them one up on all others; even the Apostles found themselves doing that. They each wanted to know who is the best among them, thinking it to be themself that is the closest to Jesus.

It is a flaw of many, if not all of us, that requires study prayer and work to overcome.  For in general  nothing of God is of private interpretation.

To think one has something that none others have is a pretty big clue  that they are mistaken. They may or may not be a cult. Christian groups, truly Christian groups, fall ino the same trap! 

What makes  one a cult is that all cults deny Jesus is Lord. They may make for themselves another Jesus, but they deny Him His glory generally making themselves capable of being an equal Jesus in their mindset. As example, the Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ. with their Jesus being something entirely different from  that of all Christians.

[simplejeff]

Yes,   as noted by so many ,  there are cults. 

Ther are more cults and more errors and more deceptions present than there is truth or truthful people.

Thus the necessity ,  forgotten by those in error,  to test as Scripture says;

of if not forgotten,  ignored - Jesus Voice is Known by His sheep,  but is ignored or simply no heard by all the cults and those walking in daily error,  on the wide road to destruction.

[kwikphilly]

4 hours ago, Neighbor said:

On 3/22/2020 at 7:07 PM, johnthebaptist said:

I believe God decided to come to earth as a human being and did so as Jesus Christ. I believe the Holy Spirit is how we sometimes think of God when he is communicating with us individually.

Sometimes "think of" God? the 3rdPerson of the Triune GodHead is Holy Spirit,we are Indwelled with Holy Spirit and by Jesus(Who Abides in us) =God the Son...three distinct Persons ......by Holy Spirit we have the Power& the Authority of Christ Jesus......

Edited March 27, 2020 by kwikphilly

[simplejeff]

Who is the Shepherd ?  Whose VOICE do the sheep hear and know ?   (and will not follow another)

Who said He will never leave nor forsake His disciples,  even to the end of the world ?

Whose NAME is above every NAME,  verified, written,  in harmony with ALL Scripture ?

[Neighbor]

2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

No, I merely said I embrace all that God and Jesus said in the Bible.

Fine, but you seem to me to dodge the question of the Trinity.  

Do you believe the Bible declares God to be triune in nature and that The Holy Spirit is  a person, that Jesus  is a person and that  the Father is a person,  all  persons of the devine nature ofGod; or do you attribute God as being a changeling so to speak, sometimes appearing as Jesus (as it seems you have stated) and that  the Holy Spirit is non existent, being simply an expression of God's actions.

 

[johnthebaptist]

24 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Fine, but you seem to me to dodge the question of the Trinity.  

Do you believe the Bible declares God to be triune in nature and that The Holy Spirit is  a person, that Jesus  is a person and that  the Father is a person,  all  persons of the devine nature ofGod; or do you attribute God as being a changeling so to speak, sometimes appearing as Jesus (as it seems you have stated) and that  the Holy Spirit is non existent, being simply an expression of God's actions.

 

What do you want to know about the Trinity?