enoob57 Posted February 17, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,184 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,460 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Most commentaries and such take this view with the denials of Peter in the courtyard and if you do as well will you give your support of such with Scripture. After 10 or so have commented I will give the view God has formed in me thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alive Posted February 17, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2020 I would not say that Peter was a coward. The word coward in common use infers a character trait. I would rather say that Peter was shaken to his very core at that time and probably quite beside himself. I also believe the Lord allowed it to happen as part of Peter’s preparation for what was to come in his life. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted February 17, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,184 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,460 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 @Alive ok what motivated him to lie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 17, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, enoob57 said: @Alive ok what motivated him to lie? I can’t say beyond what I already have unless I were to opine a crisis of faith. He was just a man. A fisherman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jostler Posted February 18, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.39 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 I wonder which of us has never given in to fear, or crumbled under pressure at one time or another. Men of cowardly character in general don't get out of boats in the midst of raging storms.... 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted February 18, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, enoob57 said: denials of Peter in the courtyard I heard of a pastor sending 4 girls and a women back to a pedafile, he was afraid because he had a gun that man shouldn't have been a pastor, he knew nothing. As far as Peter, without faith it is impossible to please God, I think Peter was with Jesus about 3 years, I don't think he had enough faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted February 18, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,184 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,460 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 So far Jostler has given Scriptural evidence toward Peter's character which I think is valid... There are other indicators more pertinent even than this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blood Bought 1953 Posted February 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2020 It’s very easy to pick on poor Peter.He knew The If he admitted that he was a Follower Of Jesus, he might just be put to death himself.Its sure easy to be a “ hero” 2000 years later in the safety of our warm homes in a nation where Christianity is accepted.I wonder how brave all Of the critics would actually be if they found that their lives were on the line when asked , “ Do you know Him?” Peter was a flawed man,just like all of us.I don’t think it should be forgotten that despite his flaws, he is still the only man I am aware of that had enough faith to walk on water......not for an expanded period of time , but he did better than I could do. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted February 18, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,467 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,378 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, enoob57 said: Most commentaries and such take this view with the denials of Peter in the courtyard and if you do as well will you give your support of such with Scripture. After 10 or so have commented I will give the view God has formed in me thus far. Hey enoob57, Let me preface this by saying, I've often wondered how I would face persecution and martyrdom if it came to it, like the millions of other Christian martyrs whom voluntarily laid down their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ? I believe an important fact is; Simon's denials occurred prior to Jesus going to the Cross and Satan wanted to sift him as wheat. Christ had not risen from the grave and the Holy Spirit did not indwell him. I think just as Abraham, Simon Peter still had faith in Jesus and had previously confessed him, therefore I think he was still saved at that point, but it's only a thought of mine. It's interesting that Jesus asked Peter exactly three times, Peter do you love me, and the Greek words used. Jesus asked Peter, do you love me [agapao], and Peter responded yes [phileo]. I'm interested in the point you're going to make and your actual question? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted February 18, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,467 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,378 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jostler said: I wonder which of us has never given in to fear, or crumbled under pressure at one time or another. Men of cowardly character in general don't get out of boats in the midst of raging storms.... Or in the midst of Roman soldiers and a large mob, draw his sword and cut off a priests ear. I'm sure Peter wasn't aiming just for an ear. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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