Are we POSITIVE we are not overreacting?

[P Jay]

2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

One must weigh one danger against another.

thank you for this letter:  I think it's probably the best written statement I've seen.  I will review it often and pass it on to my family and friends.

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 hours ago, Sonshine said:

Well, I think that the thing we need to be watching for, regarding overreaction to the Corona virus, is that in these latter days, “the bad guys” will be out to deceive Christians concerning economy, religion, politics and education.  Deception is the game Satan plays very well in the end times.  The One-World system is on its way.  

And that my friend is THA TRUTH .     a much deadlier virus than corona has long infected many .  for it can kill the soul . 

NOTHING will stop the delusion now .    Nothing will stop the all inclusive lie .     THE LAMBS OF JESUS MUST SIMPLY RESIST IT BY OUR FAITH IN HIM .   

And they will use this corona virus as a means to attain even more power for an agenda ,  as they always do , they never let a good crisis go to waste .   THEY got goals sister , they got goals and their goals 

cometh of the bowles of hell itself of the dragon itself .     ONE MINDSET with by both secular and religoius means that will worship their beast and one world solution .     

[missmuffet]

21 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

I think because of the season we’re in.  

The end times...yes. But we have faith and trust in God. He knows exactly what is going on. He has the whole picture. We do not. 

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

Amen... but we need to be watchmen now.  I believe the time of tribulation is not too far away, and let’s remember what our Father has told us:

Matthew 24:22 King James Version (KJV)

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

That is a second coming verse. For the 7 year tribulation. 

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 hours ago, Sonshine said:

... Deception is going to be all over the world. 

here let me rewrite that .     and i bet you wont argue .  

deception is not only going to be all over the world ,  its already all over most mainstream churches too .    THERE IS NO STOPPING the delusion .

IF we truly knew how far along we really are folks would stagger in awe .       My GOD knows i lie not .  WE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE with an alll out delusion RIGHT NOW  .   and i mean RIGHT NOW .

and worse ,   so many are under it in one form or another and they think ITS DADDY GODS LOVE .   HIS ALL INCLUSIVE LOVE .    I AM TOTALLY TERRIFIED NOW for many .    me ,  i have no fear FOR ME .

MY GOD HAS ME .  OH PRAISE BE HIS HOLY NAME HE HAS ME .  JUST as HE HAS EVERY LAMB WHO IS HIS .    But oh dear so many think they are his and they are not .    We better make sure ITS THE BIBLICAL JESUS WE LOVE .

and not some other version .       JESUS has the lambs , but the wicked one has all others .     

[Jostler]

One of the biggest hurdles to understanding what we're facing is a huge lack of broad understanding of exponential functions.   But we're all about to get a demonstration...we've had enough data to see this coming for two months but few yet understand what that data has been telling us, and those who know full well are still lying about what the data shows.

Testing has purposely been sabotaged in the US....there is no excuse for the lack of available tests in the US when we have had well over two months to prepare for this.  As testing finally gets rolled out, reality shown by vigorous testing is going to begin revealing the truth.

[Jostler]

6 minutes ago, Godismyloveforever said:

Well the thing about testing is that anyone who thinks they have it and goes to where they can be tested is putting themselves at high risk of being infected if not already because of all the people there who might have it and are there to be tested. 

 

Yet other countries rolled out mobile testing stations where people didn't even have to get out of their cars.  And did so VERY early....South Korea and Germany are two examples.  We've finally begun to roll out mobile testing in some very limited locations ....

There are ways around your concern and the government has known it.  They CHOSE not to do what it takes to implement vigorous testing and that has meant containment is now impossible.  That was a CHOICE....and there will be a price to pay for it. 

[Neighbor]

On 3/16/2020 at 9:10 AM, ReneeIW said:

but it does seem like there is a bit of overreaction which is making matters worse and bringing down the economy

Yes, It feels like a dress rehearsal for a coup. Simple as that.

[vic66]

On 3/16/2020 at 3:24 PM, George said:

This is an email that I got from a Harvard doctor, you can take it for what it is ---

Dear Friends,

 

So much confusion, misinformation and denial is bouncing around on social media about the coronavirus that I thought I would try to explain, in plain language, why the experts see this as such an emergency.

 

You will see the claim online that this virus is a lot like the viruses that cause colds, and that if you get it, it will probably just seem like a bad cold and you are very unlikely to die. Depending on who you are, these statements are probably true. But they are incomplete, and the missing information is the key to understanding the problem.

 

This is a coronavirus that is new to the human population, jumping into people late last year from some kind of animal, probably at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China. It is related to the viruses that cause colds, and acts a lot like them in many ways. It is very easy to transmit through the respiratory droplets that all of us give off. But nobody has ever been exposed to this before, which means nobody has any immunity to it.

 

The virus is now moving explosively through the human population. While most people will recover, about 20 percent of the people who catch it will wind up with a serious disease. They will get pneumonia that causes shortness of breath, and they may need hospitalization.

 

Some of those people will get so sick that they cannot be saved and will die of the pneumonia. The overall death rate for people who develop symptoms seems to be 2 or 3 percent. Once we have enough testing to find out how many people caught the virus but did not develop symptoms, that might come down to about 1 percent, optimistically.

 

This is a large number. It is at least 10 times higher than the mortality rate for the seasonal flu, for instance, which in some years kills 60,000 or 70,000 Americans. So just on that math, we could be looking at 600,000 or 700,000 dead in the United States. But it gets worse.

 

Older people with existing health problems are much more vulnerable, on average. The mortality rate of coronavirus among people over age 80 may be 15 or 20 percent. It appears to have 7 or 8 percent mortality for people aged 70 to 79. Here is the terrible part: If you are a healthy younger person, you can catch the virus and, without developing serious symptoms yourself, you can pass it along to older people. In other words, as the virus spreads, it is going to be very easy to go out and catch it, give it to your grandmother and kill her, even though you will not die yourself. You can catch it by touching a door knob or an elevator button.

 

Scientists measure the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0, or “R naught.” That number is calculated this way: for every person who develops the illness, how many other people do they give it to before they are cured (or dead) and no longer infectious? The R0 for coronavirus, in the absence of a control strategy, appears to be a number close to 3 – maybe a bit higher or lower, but in that ballpark. This is an extremely frightening number for such a deadly disease.

 

Suppose you catch the virus. You will give it to 3 other people, and they will each give it to three others, and so forth. Here is how the math works, where you, the “index case,” are the first line:

1

3

9

27

81

243

729

2,187

6,561

19,683

59,046

177,147

531,441

1,594,323

4,782,969

14,348,907

 

So, in just 15 steps of transmission, the virus has gone from just one index case to 14.3 million other people. Those 15 steps might take only a few weeks. The index person may be young and healthy, but many of those 14 million people will be old and sick, and they will likely die because they got a virus that started in one person's throat.

 

The United States is not at this point yet, with millions infected, as best we can tell. We don’t really know, because our government has failed us. We are many, many weeks behind other countries in rolling out widespread testing, so we don’t really have a clue how far the thing has spread. We do know that cases are starting to pop up all over the place, with many of the people having no known exposure to travelers from China, so that means this virus has escaped into our communities.

 

We do not have approved treatments, yet. We do not have a vaccine. The only tool we really have now is to try to slow down the chain of transmission.

 

This can be done. In other words, R0 is not fixed – it can be lowered by control measures. If we can get the number below 1, the epidemic will die out. This is the point of the quarantines and the contact-tracing that you are hearing so much about in the news. But the virus is exploding so fast that we will not have the labor available to trace contacts for much longer, so we have to shift strategies. This has already begun, but we are not doing it fast enough.

 

It is now likely that the majority of Americans will get this virus. But slowing it down is still crucial. Why? Because the healthcare system has limited resources. We only have about a million hospital beds in America. We have well under a million ventilators. If millions of Americans get sick enough to need treatment, we will have a calamity on our hands. What will happen is a form of battlefield triage, where the doctors focus on trying to treat the young and allow the older people to die.

 

This is not theoretical. It is already happening in Italy, where people over 65 are being left alone on hospital gurneys to suffocate to death from pneumonia. They basically drown in their own sputum. There is simply not enough medical capacity to take care of them. The United States appears to be about two weeks behind Italy on the epidemic growth curve.

 

What do we need to do now? We need to cancel all large gatherings – all of them. You have probably seen that the N.B.A. has postponed the rest of its season. Other sporting events, concerts, plays and everything else involving large audiences in a small space – all of it needs to be canceled. Even if these events take place, do not go to them. No lectures, no plays, no movies, no cruises – nothing.

 

Stay at home as much as possible.Stay out of restaurants. I would cancel any travel that is not absolutely essential. Work from home if you possibly can. You may have to go buy groceries and medicine, of course, but make the trips quick and purposeful. Wash your hands assiduously after you have been in public places, for a full 20 seconds, soaping up thoroughly and being sure to get between the fingers. Sunlight and alcohol will kill the virus.

 

And please stop passing around statements on social media claiming that the situation is not serious or is being exaggerated. This is a national crisis, and conveying misinformation to your friends and family may put their lives in danger” 

Here is God's  well tried and tested best solution through out many generations

Jonah 3 (KJV)

3 And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying,

² Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.

³ So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.

⁴ And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

⁵ So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.

⁶ For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.

⁷ And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:

⁸ But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.

⁹ Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?

¹⁰ And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Edited March 19, 2020 by vic66

[TheBlade]

If your talking about the world.. to some extent yes. Its just the one spreads very fast. So far its hard to tell if there is even a Church out there that believes. The one simple verse 'There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling." And add nothing shall by any means hurt you...

yes.. over reacting to some degree. 10k out of 330million have it. And of that 10k 148 have died. Yet in 2009 in one year over 12,000 died of H1N1. And back then.. hundreds of thousands had it in America. And back then the MEDIA said "theres nothing to worry about".

The Father said "A thousand may fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand; But it shall not come near you." So.. its that old, was never meant for us, man wrote it. For me.. There is no OT. God words can never return to Him void. And praise GOD man will speak up and give his personal view. But can never speak FOR God. I have always stood on HIS word. HE keeps it. I don't know.. I just take it walk it blindly. So no matter what I see hear feel..I just believe. Did this since I was 12 or so.

Fear worry doubt.. will stop God. There is nothing to fear here. WE need to stand.. be the light.. that LIGHT is real.. it was real IN Christ. Its in us. That light is not just preaching sharing the word. Its standing out side in collage watching a old black and white movie. EWUNIV and someone walks ups "your a Christian aren't you?"  "yes how did you know?"  "theres just something about you".

The simple nothing shall by any means hurt you.. And.. anything we need...is always supplied. I don't ask man nor believe for man to meet my needs. Don't ask man for anything. The song playing wow again so cool..praise GOD "We Wont be shaken, Building 429".. WOW thats God.. WE WONT BE SHAKEN... wow.. as I was just tying the above line that song started to play.

Your Father is God.. you have nothing what so ever to fear to worry about. He leaves the 99 for the one. You have no clue how much He loves you.. and He is not punishing anyone.. He will use this for HIS glory. Show the world that ...song playing "Same power... Jeremy Camp"... thats your Father. LIVES IN US! Wow.. thank you Father..