We are still not getting it...... yet.

[simplejeff]

1 hour ago, Gideon said:

1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

He does so through His Word alone and made living by the Spiritually infused Word of God not by visions and extra revelation as you have claimed...

When we look from a fleshy side this may appear so but when we look from Spiritual side-> Christ The Lord Jesus has already accomplished this in each that hold His Presence by the Holy Spirirt...

I do not look to myself to see perfection I look to the Scriptures and The Holy Spirit that teaches them to me >and< all point me to Jesus
Heb 12:2-9

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
KJV
 

This occurred the moment of my new birth....

The expectation of truth is positive,  but subject to testing.

As long as tradition compromises God's Word,  there is purification/ sanctification/ revelation still required.

[enoob57]

18 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

What is written in His Word? 

There is no other form in which God's speaks to us ...

[enoob57]

18 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

As long as tradition compromises God's Word,  there is purification/ sanctification/ revelation still required.

This is open canon stuff and is not supported by God's Word... The canon of Scripture is sealed by God in His Revelation...

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, enoob57 said:

There is no other form in which God's speaks to us ...

That is true according to tradition.

It is not at all what God's Word says. 

Did you ever read Hebrews in the NT ? 

Very clearly different form ,  DIRECTLY..... AS WRITTEN.  (oh, yes, always in perfect harmony with all of His Word - this is true:  harmony;  but not nearly the only form God uses, as written especially in the first century,  with the Apostles, and since then as written in Hebrews and etc )

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, enoob57 said:

This is open canon stuff and is not supported by God's Word... The canon of Scripture is sealed by God in His Revelation...

Not at all - your use of 'open canon stuff' is unbiblical and untrue, apparently.

[enoob57]

26 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

The expectation of truth is positive,  but subject to testing.

So how do you test for truth?

[simplejeff]

4 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

So how do you test for truth?

What is your source for truth ?

[Gideon]

3 hours ago, enoob57 said:

We are... your expressing your feeling, visions, extra revelation and I am expressing God's Word....    Every post is a community of expression and comment... it's like an old adage if ya can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. What you are writing is error according to God's Word and my post are revealing such... now the question why would you not welcome this? 

So let me ask you a question. Has God  promised to keep us from falling by insuring we are. not tempted above our ability to resist and instead will provide a way of escape so that we do not yield and give in to actually commit the sin?  Once that is answered, I will follow up with whether or not this promise actually is working for you. 

Blessings, 

Gids

[enoob57]

@simplejeffI can see we are not going to be able to communicate....  

[enoob57]

7 minutes ago, Gideon said:

So let me ask you a question. Has God  promised to keep us from falling by insuring we are. not tempted above our ability to resist and instead will provide a way of escape

Oh absolutely through The Holy Spirit and inspired Word of God... He even gave us example to follow
 

Luke 4:1-14

4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.

3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.

4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:

11 And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
KJV