Hi - MY NAME IS LAMECH...

[DearOldDad]

AROUND THE ANCIENT CAMPFIRE

 

  1c 2c 3c 4c 5c 6c 7c 8c 9c 10c 11c 12c 13c 14c 15c 16c 17c 18c 19c 20c
[000]Adam................[930]
[130]Seth....................[1042]
[235]Enos........................[1140]
[325]Cainan.........................[1235]
[395]Mahaliel........................[1293]
[460]Jared................................[1422]
[622]Enoch.................[987]
[687]Methusaleh.....................................[1656]
[874].......Lamech..182...(777)....................[1651]
                  [1056]....Noah.500......(950).......[2006]
                                                  [1556]............Shem
                                                  [1556].............Ham
                                                  [1556].........Japheth
                                             flood...[1656]

Adam talked with Seth........800 years
Adam talked with Enos........695 years
Adam talked with Cainan......605 years
Adam talked with Mahaliel....535 years
Adam talked with Jared.......470 years
Adam talked with Enoch.......308 years
Adam talked with Methusaleh..243 years
Adam talked with Lamech......56 years

Hi, My name is Lamech.

I'm the new kid on the block and I was sitting around the campfire at night, listening to the stories of the elders, finally getting up the courage to ask my grandfather Enoch, "Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

I noticed a sudden quiet around that ancient campfire, a looking for a place to not be noticed, a feeling of somehow having violated an ancient rule... When Grandfather Enoch broke the silence to say "I really don't know. We could go ask My grandfather Mahaliel."

Taking me by the hand, Enoch began to search around the campfires, and finally spotted his aged grandfather Mahaliel, leaning upon an old tree. Approaching together, Enoch warns his grandson,(that's me) "Now let me do the talking." I was only too glad to agree, as I was in total awe of the elders in whose company I was constantly made aware.

Enoch approached his ancient progenitor once removed and enquired," Grampa, may we ask you a question?"

Mahaleil thought for a moment and responded "I guess one question won't hurt. What is it?"

"What happened in the Garden Grampa," Enoch asked.

"Why, I don't know," responded Mahaliel. "I suppose we could go ask my grampa Enos."

By now I was beginning to wish I had kept my question to myself, as this was beginning to bring to my mind, the attention of some of the really ancient men of the camps.

But, too late. Off we went to find Grampa Enos. Around many fires we went. Around many fires we looked, and around many fires we enquired as to the whereabouts of grampa Enos.

Finally one ancient lady whose name we could not even remember, pointed in a direction with a nod of her head.

Off we went. Not long after, we spotted a campfire we had already looked at and ignored because it was so small. To the camp we trudged, and upon approaching the elder, and with no introductory remarks whatsoever, enquired "Grampy, what happened in the garden."

Grampa Enos shook his ancient head, and with a voice scarecely above a whisper, said "I don't know.... Let's go ask grandfather Adam."

I Now realized an enormity to what I had started that I hadn't imagined when I first gave voice to my curiosity. With a little fear and a little more trembling, I took grampa's grampa Enoch's hand; and Enoch took his grampa Mahaliel's hand, and Mahaliel took his grampa Enos's hand, and we all took off through the woods looking for the campfire of Enos's grandfather, Adam.

After searching for a long time, we spotted a little campfire back in a woody area that they had not seen before. Approaching quietly and respectfully, Enos said "Alright now, all you kids stay quiet, and let me ask the question." To which we all agreed.

We approached the campfire, and greeted grandfather Adam, who was glad to see so many of his extended family all out for a very rare visit. Enos wasted no time. "Grandfather Adam, can I ask you a question?"

"Well, I guess one question won't do any harm," replied the old man.

"Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

Hushed silence. Not a breath stirred. Total silence. Adam's eyes filled with tears, as he sought out one from beside the fire. He reached out and an ancient woman rose from the fire's side, and he reached out to her with not a word. I noticed her eyes were filled with tears also. They took each other's hand, and speaking no  words, turned and went off into the forest, silently weeping, and with only an occasional sound of heartfelt agony, disappeared for many a day.

I never asked another question of my elders.

 

[George]

Shalom DearOldDad,

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Some people like to constantly throw food and yell ... they won't last on Worthy ... because they missed the point of the party ... it's a prequel to the true party -- the Lamb's Supper!  

All I'm trying to provide is a place to allow true fellowship ... and discussions in love ... in the hopes it will be a catalyst for true REVIVAL based on REPENTANCE!

I hope you have a blessed time at Worthy!

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[DearOldDad]

13 hours ago, George said:

Shalom DearOldDad,

Welcome to Worthy Christian Forums. Please feel free to browse around and get to know everyone. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.  As soon as you post a few times and after they are approved, it'll tell us that you are "real" person and not a "bot", you'll be free to post throughout our forums and join our chat rooms.  Forgive us for this minor inconvenience, however, we've had issues in the past with Spammers as well as those who wish to post obscene photos and messages!

This is a short tutorial video of how to get started with Worthy Christian Forums.

Currently, if you just began at Worthy, you are in "Newbie" Status.  Simply post a single post, as soon as it's approved, you'll be out of Newbie status and then you'll be able to edit your profile, as well as upload a profile picture.

You may be interested in reading how WCF functions, and how the forums are set up, and other neat tricks to the forums.  Read our insights into WCF.

Let me share a little bit of my vision for the ministry in a parable.

Let's say I'm throwing a big party and am inviting the world to the party (the forums) and I want everyone to have a great time, eating (reading through posts being fed), drinking (being encouraged to walk in His Word), and having fellowship with one another.  In Israel, we have Shabbat meals -- and whenever you have 2 Jews -- you have 3 opinions -- it's GREAT to be opinionated.  I encourage discussions ... but during our Shabbat meals ... we never ever get to the point in disagreements whereby food is being tossed and seriously yelling takes place!  And if someone comes into the meal ... and starts throwing food ... and yells at everyone -- what do you suppose the head of the Shabbat meal will do?  He'll escort those causing problems out of the house!  Why?  Because the whole reason for the gathering was to learn from one another ... to have a great time of fellowship!  

Some people like to constantly throw food and yell ... they won't last on Worthy ... because they missed the point of the party ... it's a prequel to the true party -- the Lamb's Supper!  

All I'm trying to provide is a place to allow true fellowship ... and discussions in love ... in the hopes it will be a catalyst for true REVIVAL based on REPENTANCE!

I hope you have a blessed time at Worthy!

Please use the REPORT POST feature (which can be found at the top right of all posts) any posts that you believe should be reviewed!  We strive to have ALL members abide by our Terms of Service.

While this message is "automated", please know that if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me off a private message which can be found at the top right to the left of your name.

Your brother in the Lord with much agape love,

George [/quote]

I cannot see too well, and have trouble following tutorials, but I will be patient and see what happens.

And thank you for the introduction.

Perhaps you can clear up one minor item for me; So far I have been told:

need to post two times so we can determine you are not a bot"

"You need to post one time so we can determine you are not a bot"

"You need to post three times so we can determine you are not a bot"

That leads to my question - Is there a calculator problem here?

I would be on the receiving end of the food fight - I love a good old "dinner on the ground" as found in many churches in America.

 

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by DearOldDad
to xorrext spellynge

[kwikphilly]

Hi,you should be able to post your Topics in the Discussion Forums that fit your subject...this is the Welcome Forum so I'll see if we can get it moved

[Kim M]

Welcome DearOldDad - I too am a newbie.  That story you posted - about Lamech asking the questions was fantastic.  There were tears in my eyes as I watched the aged Adam and Eve disappear into the dark wood.  Thank you for sharing. I have always been astounded at who got to talk to who in those days since they lived so very long!  Thanks again

Kim

[DearOldDad]

2 hours ago, Kim M said:

Welcome DearOldDad - I too am a newbie.  That story you posted - about Lamech asking the questions was fantastic.  There were tears in my eyes as I watched the aged Adam and Eve disappear into the dark wood.  Thank you for sharing. I have always been astounded at who got to talk to who in those days since they lived so very long!  Thanks again  Kim[/quote]

Welcome to my world!

I have spent a lifetime wondering how things affected the people who did them, and to whom they were done. Imagine for a moment, Enoch, of the seventh generation from Adam, who did not die because he had this testimony, "He pleased God," so God translated him. If people would read of the people who were good, they could never have believed the story someone began, to hide what they were doing, "Oh, the old testament was done away, we need only study the new." Some churches actually teach that in their pulpits.

If they read the old testament and learn of Noah, and Daniel, and Job, they could never come up with such nonsense as the "original sin inheritance" curse supposedly placed upon all men. Who can believe such nonsense when they have Ezekiel telling us of such good men?

Ezek 14:1 Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me. 2 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

 4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; 5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.
 

6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.  7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself: 8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
 

9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. 10 And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him; 11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.

 12 The word of the LORD came again to me, saying, 13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

 14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.
 

15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts: 16 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.

 17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it: 18 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be delivered themselves.

 19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast: 20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.

Yet some people will turn to a verse that says "There is none righteous, no, not one" and proclaim loud and long that no man can do anything towards his own salvation, only Jesus can save them. Well, at least that part is true.

They need to read what James says about "the sin not unto death," then read about Enoch, and Noah, Daniel, and Job, and several other individuals in scripture who are called "Righteous," before they condemn all people to such a sad, sad doctrine contrived by men, of "Original sin." But then I know who originated it and I know why, but do not intend to go further with that theme until folks learn I intend them no slight or hurt. Only a hand up as they learn a new thing, hidden because they have been taught early in life that "all men are only evil."

Enough of that.

Welcome to my world and to this wonderful board.

 

[Not me]

On 4/5/2020 at 4:30 PM, DearOldDad said:

Hi, My name is Lamech.

I'm the new kid on the block and I was sitting around the campfire at night, listening to the stories of the elders, finally getting up the courage to ask my grandfather Enoch, "Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

I noticed a sudden quiet around that ancient campfire, a looking for a place to not be noticed, a feeling of somehow having violated an ancient rule... When Grandfather Enoch broke the silence to say "I really don't know. We could go ask My grandfather Mahaliel."

Taking me by the hand, Enoch began to search around the campfires, and finally spotted his aged grandfather Mahaliel, leaning upon an old tree. Approaching together, Enoch warns his grandson,(that's me) "Now let me do the talking." I was only too glad to agree, as I was in total awe of the elders in whose company I was constantly made aware.

Enoch approached his ancient progenitor once removed and enquired," Grampa, may we ask you a question?"

Mahaleil thought for a moment and responded "I guess one question won't hurt. What is it?"

"What happened in the Garden Grampa," Enoch asked.

"Why, I don't know," responded Mahaliel. "I suppose we could go ask my grampa Enos."

By now I was beginning to wish I had kept my question to myself, as this was beginning to bring to my mind, the attention of some of the really ancient men of the camps.

But, too late. Off we went to find Grampa Enos. Around many fires we went. Around many fires we looked, and around many fires we enquired as to the whereabouts of grampa Enos.

Finally one ancient lady whose name we could not even remember, pointed in a direction with a nod of her head.

Off we went. Not long after, we spotted a campfire we had already looked at and ignored because it was so small. To the camp we trudged, and upon approaching the elder, and with no introductory remarks whatsoever, enquired "Grampy, what happened in the garden."

Grampa Enos shook his ancient head, and with a voice scarecely above a whisper, said "I don't know.... Let's go ask grandfather Adam."

I Now realized an enormity to what I had started that I hadn't imagined when I first gave voice to my curiosity. With a little fear and a little more trembling, I took grampa's grampa Enoch's hand; and Enoch took his grampa Mahaliel's hand, and Mahaliel took his grampa Enos's hand, and we all took off through the woods looking for the campfire of Enos's grandfather, Adam.

After searching for a long time, we spotted a little campfire back in a woody area that they had not seen before. Approaching quietly and respectfully, Enos said "Alright now, all you kids stay quiet, and let me ask the question." To which we all agreed.

We approached the campfire, and greeted grandfather Adam, who was glad to see so many of his extended family all out for a very rare visit. Enos wasted no time. "Grandfather Adam, can I ask you a question?"

"Well, I guess one question won't do any harm," replied the old man.

"Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

Hushed silence. Not a breath stirred. Total silence. Adam's eyes filled with tears, as he sought out one from beside the fire. He reached out and an ancient woman rose from the fire's side, and he reached out to her with not a word. I noticed her eyes were filled with tears also. They took each other's hand, and speaking no  words, turned and went off into the forest, silently weeping, and with only an occasional sound of heartfelt agony, disappeared for many a day.

I never asked another question of my elders.

 

Welcome and be so blessed in Christ, for that is one awesome story, thanks so much for posting it... It blessed my heart much!

 A fellow believer, Not me 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Not me