Unforgiveable Sin

[*Zion*]

13 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

In context of that scripture of sinning against the Holy Spirit was because they said that Jesus was casting out demons using demonic powers and not by God.  They were associating the work of the Holy Spirit which Jesus operated in as a demonic spirit.  Jesus said this sin can never be forgiven. 

How is this applicable today?   The bible speaks that God gave certain gifts to people by the Holy Spirit such as prophecy, healing, miracles, gift of diverse tongues, gift of discernment, gift of knowledge and wisdom.  When people are operating in the Holy Spirit and  when people accuse them of operating by demons they have blasphemed the Holy Spirit which gave them that gift.  

 

 

On 4/9/2020 at 12:45 PM, *Zion* said:

 

And so if we do sin against His Spirit, that which restores us back to life, we refuse it, thereby negating it.  So how then can we accept that which we have refused?  How then can we be forgiven of that which we won't acknowledge?  Both from God's perspective, and man's, the point would be completely null and void. 'I' and not my flesh would bear the responsibility.  Therefore 'I' would not be forgiven, having negated the very One who would lead me to conviction, and therefore repentance, and therefore forgiveness.

I think we're both looking at the question(?) in a similar way, although I have broadened my view of it to encompass not just attributing the manifestation of the Holy Spirit to the devil or evil spirits, but anything that goes against the Holy's Spirit work in general.  I could be wrong in this assertion but that has been my interpretation.  

[Jedi4Yahweh]

7 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

 

I think we're both looking at the question(?) in a similar way, although I have broadened my view of it to encompass not just attributing the manifestation of the Holy Spirit to the devil or evil spirits, but anything that goes against the Holy's Spirit work in general.  I could be wrong in this assertion but that has been my interpretation.  

That maybe applicable as well but in context using Jesus example its referring to people who call the manifestation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit as demonic. 

[Justin Adams]

14 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

How is this applicable today?   

A pointed question. What if we hold church traditions above the truth and call the truth bearer a purveyor of untruth and an heretic. What then?

[Eddy Crocker]

The reason why blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin is because of this reason.

It talks about in scripture that the Holy Spirit Leads and guides us into all truth. When we act like we are the Holy Spirit by correcting our own life and failures by the law or works, this is what binds the Holy Spirit’s work within us. 

When the Holy Spirit isn’t allowed to do his job then we come up short by not being able to be lead by the Spirit into truth which supposed to be our life. It’s unforgivable because we come up short when we bind his work in our life by our own fleshly works.

When Adam and Eve were naked in the garden, that’s the perfect picture of how our souls should be. When we’re naked of our own works and deeds then it’s the Holy Spirit can clothe us with his own righteousness instead of our own.

Scripture says all our righteousness is as filthy rags in the eyes of the Lord. Look what happened after Adam and Eve sinned. They went and hid themselves from God.  When we clothe ourselves with our own righteousness we are hiding our true self unto God.

This is the height of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to Clothe our own selves. We must be in a state of nakedness so the Holy Spirit can work in us the will to do his good pleasure. Anything we do without the Holy Spirit working it within us first is blasphemy against him and we are only covering up our sin and the state of our soul.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

13 hours ago, Eddy Crocker said:

The reason why blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin is because of this reason.

It talks about in scripture that the Holy Spirit Leads and guides us into all truth. When we act like we are the Holy Spirit by correcting our own life and failures by the law or works, this is what binds the Holy Spirit’s work within us. 

When the Holy Spirit isn’t allowed to do his job then we come up short by not being able to be lead by the Spirit into truth which supposed to be our life. It’s unforgivable because we come up short when we bind his work in our life by our own fleshly works.

When Adam and Eve were naked in the garden, that’s the perfect picture of how our souls should be. When we’re naked of our own works and deeds then it’s the Holy Spirit can clothe us with his own righteousness instead of our own.

Scripture says all our righteousness is as filthy rags in the eyes of the Lord. Look what happened after Adam and Eve sinned. They went and hid themselves from God.  When we clothe ourselves with our own righteousness we are hiding our true self unto God.

This is the height of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to Clothe our own selves. We must be in a state of nakedness so the Holy Spirit can work in us the will to do his good pleasure. Anything we do without the Holy Spirit working it within us first is blasphemy against him and we are only covering up our sin and the state of our soul.

Brother, I agree to a certain degree, but  I think there is a difference between quenching the Spirit verses blaspheming the Spirit.  Quenching means stopping the flow of the Spirit or suppressing the manifestation of the Spirit.   Where as Blaspheme means to speak evil of in this case speaking evil of the manifestations of the Spirit. 
 

[*Zion*]

19 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

That maybe applicable as well but in context using Jesus example its referring to people who call the manifestation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit as demonic. 

I think both are valid