Curses

[Daniel Marsh]

9 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

There is no Ezekiel 18:33.

see post above this one.    I had Eze chapter 18 and Jeremiah 31:27-35 in mind.    The Generational curse thing is refuted under the new covenant. 

 

[Daniel Marsh]

  
Matthew 26:74Then Peter began to curse. He said, “I swear to God, I don’t know the man!” As soon as he said this, a rooster crowed.
 
Mark 14:71Then Peter began to curse. He said, “I swear to God, I don’t know this man you are talking about!”
 
John 7:49But those people out there know nothing about the law. They are under God’s curse!”
 
Acts 26:11I visited all the synagogues and punished them, trying to make them curse Jesus. My anger against these people was so strong that I went to other cities to find them and punish them.
 
Romans 9:3for my own people. They are my brothers and sisters, my earthly family. I wish I could help them. I would even have a curse on me and cut myself off from Christ if that would help them.
 
Romans 12:14Wish only good for those who treat you badly. Ask God to bless them, not curse them.
 
1 Corinthians 12:3So I tell you that no one who is speaking with the help of God’s Spirit says, “Jesus be cursed.” And no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” without the help of the Holy Spirit.
 
Galatians 3:10But people who depend on following the law to make them right are under a curse. As the Scriptures say, “They must do everything that is written in the law. If they do not always obey, they are under a curse.”
 
Galatians 3:13The law says we are under a curse for not always obeying it. But Christ took away that curse. He changed places with us and put himself under that curse. The Scriptures say, “Anyone who is hung on a tree is under a curse.”
 
Hebrews 6:8But other people are like land that grows only thorns and weeds. It is worthless and in danger of being cursed by God. It will be destroyed by fire.
 
James 3:9We use our tongues to praise our Lord and Father, but then we curse people who were created in God’s likeness.
 
James 3:10These praises and curses come from the same mouth. My brothers and sisters, this should not happen.
 
2 Peter 2:14Every time they look at a woman, they want her. They are always sinning this way. And they lead weaker people into the trap of sin. They have taught themselves well to be greedy. They are under a curse.
 
Revelation 16:9The people were burned by the great heat. They cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues. But they refused to change their hearts and lives and give glory to God.
 
Revelation 16:11They cursed the God of heaven because of their pain and the sores they had. But they refused to change their hearts and turn away from the evil things they did.
 
Revelation 16:21Giant hailstones fell on the people from the sky. These hailstones weighed almost 100 pounds each. People cursed God because of this plague of the hail. It was terrible.

which of those verses puts a born again Christian under a curse from another person?

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Daniel Marsh said:

see post above this one.    I had Eze chapter 18 and Jeremiah 31:27-35 in mind.    The Generational curse thing is refuted under the new covenant. 

Mark 11:12-25; Jesus cursed a fig tree, for all future generations.

[Daniel Marsh]

Hi Brother if you are taking the text figuratively to refer to Israel the only text I can think of that may relate is Romans 11.

Romans 11 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
God Has Not Forgotten His People
11 So I ask, “Did God force his people to leave him?” Of course not. I myself am an Israelite. I am from the family of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God chose the Israelites to be his people before they were born. And he did not force them to leave. Surely you know what the Scriptures say about Elijah. The Scriptures tell about Elijah praying to God against the people of Israel. He said, 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and destroyed your altars. I am the only prophet still living, and they are trying to kill me now.”[a] 4 But what answer did God give to Elijah? God said, “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have never given worship to Baal.”

5 It is the same now. God has chosen a few people by his grace. 6 And if he chose them by grace, then it is not what they have done that made them his people. If they could be made his people by what they did, his gift of grace would not really be a gift.

7 So this is what has happened: The people of Israel wanted God’s blessing, but they did not all get it. The people he chose did get his blessing, but the others became hard and refused to listen to him. 8 As the Scriptures say,

“God caused the people to fall asleep.”

“God closed their eyes so that they could not see,
    and he closed their ears so that they could not hear.
This continues until now.”

9 And David says,

“Let those people be caught and trapped at their own feasts.
    Let them fall and be punished.
10 Let their eyes be closed so that they cannot see.
    And let them be troubled forever.”

11 So I ask: When the Jews fell, did that fall destroy them? No! But their mistake brought salvation to those who are not Jews. The purpose of this was to make the Jews jealous. 12 Their mistake brought rich blessings to the world. And what they lost brought rich blessings to the non-Jewish people. So surely the world will get much richer blessings when enough Jews become the kind of people God wants.

13 Now I am speaking to you people who are not Jews. I am an apostle to the non-Jewish people. So while I have that work, I will do the best I can. 14 I hope I can make my own people jealous. That way, maybe I can help some of them to be saved. 15 God turned away from the Jews. When that happened, he became friends with the other people in the world. So when he accepts the Jews, it will be like bringing people to life after death. 16 If the first piece of bread is offered to God, then the whole loaf is made holy. If the roots of a tree are holy, the tree’s branches are holy too.

17 It is as if some of the branches from an olive tree have been broken off, and the branch of a wild olive tree has been joined to that first tree. If you are not a Jew, you are the same as that wild branch, and you now share the strength and life of the first tree. 18 But don’t act as if you are better than those branches that were broken off. You have no reason to be proud of yourself, because you don’t give life to the root. The root gives life to you. 19 You might say, “Branches were broken off so that I could be joined to their tree.” 20 That is true. But those branches were broken off because they did not believe. And you continue to be part of the tree only because you believe. Don’t be proud, but be afraid. 21 If God did not let the natural branches of that tree stay, he will not let you stay if you stop believing.

22 So you see that God is kind, but he can also be very strict. He punishes those who stop following him. But he is kind to you, if you continue trusting in his kindness. If you don’t continue depending on him, you will be cut off from the tree. 23 And if the Jews will believe in God again, he will accept them back. He is able to put them back where they were. 24 It is not natural for a wild branch to become part of a good tree. But you non-Jewish people are like a branch cut from a wild olive tree. And you were joined to a good olive tree. But those Jews are like a branch that grew from the good tree. So surely they can be joined to their own tree again.

25 I want you to understand this secret truth, brothers and sisters. This truth will help you understand that you don’t know everything. The truth is this: Part of Israel has been made stubborn, but that will change when enough non-Jewish people have come to God. 26 And that is how all Israel will be saved. The Scriptures say,

“The Savior will come from Zion;
    he will take away all evil from the family of Jacob.
27 And I will make this agreement with those people
    when I take away their sins.”

28 The Jews refuse to accept the Good News, so they are God’s enemies. This has happened to help you who are not Jews. But they are still God’s chosen people, and he loves them because of the promises he made to their ancestors. 29 God never changes his mind about the people he calls. He never decides to take back the blessings he has given them. 30 At one time you refused to obey God. But now you have received mercy, because the Jews refused to obey. 31 And now they are the ones who refuse to obey, because God showed mercy to you. But this happened so that they can also receive mercy from him. 32 All people have refused to obey God. And he has put them all together as people who don’t obey him so that he can show mercy to everyone.

Praise to God
33 Yes, God’s riches are very great! His wisdom and knowledge have no end! No one can explain what God decides. No one can understand his ways. 34 As the Scriptures say,

“Who can know what is on the Lord’s mind?
    Who is able to give him advice?”

35 “Who has ever given God anything?
    God owes nothing to anyone.”

36 Yes, God made all things. And everything continues through him and for him. To God be the glory forever! Amen.

 

The question in my last post is, which of those verses puts a born again Christian under a curse from another person? and I do not see how your text relates to my question.

 

Have a good day.

[Guest]

The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch is on the History Channel weekly.  This past week as they were trying to find the source of the abnormal scientific reasons they first have traced the source to one mile above Homestead #2 on the ranch.  They sent up an instrumented weather balloon and it visually and instrumentally disappeared, even using radar, as it came close to the one mile mark.  So they decided to use rockets to get their instrumentation up to one mile.  The first rocket misfired giving off no data.  The second rocket was interesting.  During it's flight, a UFO appeared out of nowhere and was visible for 10 seconds by five witnesses and filmed by security cameras.  It disappeared without a trace and did not show up on radar.  A third rocket was fired and it duplicated for the most part the second rocket's findings including the reappearance of the UFO again in nearly the same place as witnessed by the same five witnesses.  The UFO looked like a bright silver ball and disappeared.  These tests were all done in the daytime.  The ranch cattle seemed to be affected by the rockets or something else going on.  They moved as far away as possible during the test.  Daytime cattle mutilations have occurred in the past since 1930.

Other tests (ground penetrating radar, resistivity, etc.) were run which indicate a large hidden structure beneath the ground.  It could be a cave or some hitherto unknown man-made structure.  The dome of this structure appears to be directly beneath the where the UFO(s) were.

Anyway, it's interesting.

Edited May 10, 2020 by Saved.One.by.Grace

[shortangel]

I've always wondered about this topic myself do generational curses still excisit even in the New Testament??? I know that there were promises & curses for the children of isreal if they obeyed or disobeyed the Lord