Salvation...Can it be lost???

[Remnantrob]

The reason why these kinda threads always pop up? Because even when we think we've heard it a hundred times, sometimes the 101st time makes a difference in your perspective. You don't read the bible once and say..."Again, I've already read it b4". My vote, salvation can be lost because of your decision. My example, King Saul.

[CarolineS]

I agree that our salvation can be lost.

"He that endures until the end shall be saved." Matt.24:13

We are to endure, follow Christ, and live a life of faith. It is possible to return to the old life of sin, have our names blotted out of the Book of Life and be eternally lost.

"He who over comes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. " Rev. 3:5

When we come to Jesus we receive eternal life. Just as His coming into the heart by faith brings life, our unbelief brings spiritual death. We cannot be unborn, but we can die. Nothing can take us from His hand except our own choice.

In Christ,

CarolineS

[dgolvach]

You cannot lose it. All of you on this board who think you can will be glad that Calvin was correct when you get to heaven. You will be able to look back on your life (as will I) and see that you never deserved salvation in the first place. Even on your most saintly day you are not even close to being worthy of salvation. If you or I could lose it, I have complete confidence in us. We absolutly will. God's grace is amazing. His holiness is beyond our understanding. Totally foreign to what we humans are capable of. If you learn to rest in this unmerited favor you will most likley find yourself more obedient and in touch with God's holy spirit. Don't depend on yourself. Jesus called us his sheep. That was not a compliment. If you have truely called on Christ to save you and asked him to change you through his holy spirit, its a done deal. You might be in for a rough ride though. Horses are hard to break. That is my opinion based on how I understand the Bible. For those who have a different view, PEACE!! I respect you and we are still family.

God Bless

Dan

[Remnantrob]

I think the main reason it is an issue is because it seems to:

1. Make God seem less loving and

2. Allow those who are saved and cannot be lost to continue to do as they feel because they are secure about their eternity.

but you are correct. We're still family

[apothanein kerdos]

You cannot lose it. All of you on this board who think you can will be glad that Calvin was correct when you get to heaven. You will be able to look back on your life (as will I) and see that you never deserved salvation in the first place. Even on your most saintly day you are not even close to being worthy of salvation. If you or I could lose it, I have complete confidence in us. We absolutly will. God's grace is amazing. His holiness is beyond our understanding. Totally foreign to what we humans are capable of. If you learn to rest in this unmerited favor you will most likley find yourself more obedient and in touch with God's holy spirit. Don't depend on yourself. Jesus called us his sheep. That was not a compliment. If you have truely called on Christ to save you and asked him to change you through his holy spirit, its a done deal. You might be in for a rough ride though. Horses are hard to break. That is my opinion based on how I understand the Bible. For those who have a different view, PEACE!! I respect you and  we are still family. 

God Bless

Dan

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Bingo. If Salvation was ours to begin with we would lose it the moment we had it.

Again, people need to understand two things. By accepting Christ we enter into a covenant with God and under this covenant He kills us and the Holy Spirit then lives within us. The second thing is that though many will violate their covenants with GOd, God never nullifies or violates His covenant with people and always brings them back to that covenant.

[Khristeeanos]

The second thing is that though many will violate their covenants with GOd, God never nullifies or violates His covenant with people and always brings them back to that covenant.

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How did salvation go from following the Moasic Law to that being abolished if this is true?

Are the Jews still saved by following the Law?

Doesn't that nullify the sacrifice of Christ?

Please explain.

[apothanein kerdos]

The second thing is that though many will violate their covenants with GOd, God never nullifies or violates His covenant with people and always brings them back to that covenant.

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How did salvation go from following the Moasic Law to that being abolished if this is true?

Are the Jews still saved by following the Law?

Doesn't that nullify the sacrifice of Christ?

Please explain.

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The Mosaic law was never about salvation. It was about Holiness. Salvation was gained by faith in the comming Messiah.

[apothanein kerdos]

Bureto, no one is going to debte you because you're attempting to trap us into a debate. It's painfullly obvious you won't listen when we debate and will ignore any interpretation brought forth. So why engage in such a fruitless endevour?

[Guest shiloh357]

The second thing is that though many will violate their covenants with GOd, God never nullifies or violates His covenant with people and always brings them back to that covenant.

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How did salvation go from following the Moasic Law to that being abolished if this is true?

Are the Jews still saved by following the Law?

Doesn't that nullify the sacrifice of Christ?

Please explain.

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No one was saved by keeping the law. The Jews of ancient times were saved by grace through faith just as we are. They were saved by putting their faith in the Messiah that the sacrifices pointed to. They were not saved by the sacrifices.

[pretzelperson]

If salvation can be lost will somebody please help me understand the following terms and concepts found in Ephesians in the context of losing one's salvation.

Redemption

Adoption

Sealed

being dead then made alive