Is Anyone Actually In Hell At This Time?

[uvn477]

I have heard it said that before Jesus died for our sins, people would go to a place called Hades when they die. Hades would be split up into torment and paradise. Now my question is, is anyone actually in hell at this present time? I personally don't think so because even demons aren't in hell yet. And it is said that the people who survive the tribulation will be judged first. Then after the millenial kingdom the others will be resurrected and judged. However, I could be wrong about this so I'd like to get a clear answer.

[jesussaves]

I'll tell you what Jesus said on the subject in Luke 16: 22-23

"And it came to pass that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom; the rich man also died and was buried: and in hell lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham far off and Lazarus in his bosom."

There were people who had died that were seen alive when Jesus was resurrected. They came right out of the grave with Him. Those in Abrahams bosom, not those in hell.

[uvn477]

I'll tell you what Jesus said on the subject in Luke 16: 22-23

"And it came to pass that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom; the rich man also died and was buried: and in hell lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham far off and Lazarus in his bosom."

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This brings up another question I had. Were all the stories Jesus told true or were some made up to be an example. I especially have a hard time believeing this one since there is a guy speaking to Abraham from hell. I thought hell was supposed to be a prison. A place where a man loses everything. How is he speaking to Abraham? Did Jesus make this one up to be an example and deliver his message or was it actually true?

[jesussaves]

I have heard it said that before Jesus died for our sins, people would go to a place called Hades when they die. Hades would be split up into torment and paradise. Now my question is, is anyone actually in hell at this present time? I personally don't think so because even demons aren't in hell yet. And it is said that the people who survive the tribulation will be judged first. Then after the millenial kingdom the others will be resurrected and judged. However, I could be wrong about this so I'd like to get a clear answer.

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You are right about the final judgment. All those whose names are not written in the Lambs Book of life will be cast into the lake of fire with satan and his demons to be eternally seperated from the Lord.

I am sorry that I don't have a deeper study of this for you right now. It is late and I am tired. There are some Bible scholars here that can perhaps answer this for you in a way that helps you see it more clearly.

[nebula]

I have heard it said that before Jesus died for our sins, people would go to a place called Hades when they die. Hades would be split up into torment and paradise. Now my question is, is anyone actually in hell at this present time? I personally don't think so because even demons aren't in hell yet. And it is said that the people who survive the tribulation will be judged first. Then after the millenial kingdom the others will be resurrected and judged. However, I could be wrong about this so I'd like to get a clear answer.

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Hades is the place where the dead go in Greek mythology, and that is split into two places - one for the "good" (the Alutian Fields, or something like that?) and one for the "bad" (Tartarus, I beleive?).

In the Old Testament, in Hebrew, it speaks of Sheol, which means "the grave," whenever the writer speaks of the place of the dead. However, the OT does not delve into what happens to souls after the person dies.

In NT times, I have heard it was believed that the righteous went to "Abraham's bosom" and the unrighteous to the place of torment. The model for this place of torment was the Valley of Gahenna (sp?), which was the valley outside Jerusalem where the trash was dumped, and there "the fire was never quenched and the worm died not."

Our modern understanding of Hell, as I have heard, comes from the novel Dante's Inferno.

[DaBronx]

This brings up another question I had. Were all the stories Jesus told true or were some made up to be an example. I especially have a hard time believeing this one since there is a guy speaking to Abraham from hell. I thought hell was supposed to be a prison. A place where a man loses everything. How is he speaking to Abraham? Did Jesus make this one up to be an example and deliver his message or was it actually true?

I have heard from a very trusted Pastor (Dr. Charles Stanley) that when Jesus told parables ("made-up stories") he never used names but when He was speaking about actual people He used their names...

Made sense to me.

Edited July 18, 2005 by DaBronx

[Sirsilius]

Hades Sheol and hell is the Grave. Every one who has died is there until the Lord resurects them.

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Agreed!

[Old Timer]

Hades Sheol and hell is the Grave. Every one who has died is there until the Lord resurects them.

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Also agree!

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

If hell is the grave why does JESUS warn us about the "danger of hell fire"(Matt.5:22)?Please explain Matt.5:29-30,Matt.18:8-9.

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

If hell is the grave then alot of sinners won't be paying for their wicked ways when they die .