Popular Post Debp Posted May 27, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 54 Topic Count: 1,310 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 13,348 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 17,071 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2020 "Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is the proclamation of the end of religion, not of a new religion, or even of the best of all religions. If the cross is the sign of anything, it's the sign that God has gone out of the religion business and solved all of the world's problems without requiring a single human being to do a single religious thing. What the cross is actually a sign of is the fact that religion can't do a thing about the world's problems - that it never did work and it never will." -Robert Farrar Capon- 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_iain Posted May 27, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 26,052 Content Per Day: 5.88 Reputation: 22,272 Days Won: 176 Joined: 08/05/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/30/1985 Share Posted May 27, 2020 As it happens, this was a thought that struck me as I got up this morning. Always nice to get confirmation. This puts together my thoughts around this so well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted May 27, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 193 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,110 Content Per Day: 6.05 Reputation: 9,066 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I am reminded of this: Heb. 1:1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Heb. 7:19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Heb. 7:22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant. Heb. 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortangel Posted May 27, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2020 that's true Christianity is not a relgion u's a relationship with Jesus 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted May 27, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 19 Topic Count: 1,103 Topics Per Day: 0.39 Content Count: 15,265 Content Per Day: 5.36 Reputation: 9,873 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Debp said: "Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is the proclamation of the end of religion, not of a new religion, or even of the best of all religions. If the cross is the sign of anything, it's the sign that God has gone out of the religion business and solved all of the world's problems without requiring a single human being to do a single religious thing. What the cross is actually a sign of is the fact that religion can't do a thing about the world's problems - that it never did work and it never will." -Robert Farrar Capon- I suspect I disagree with this former Episcopal Priest turned writer. For I find my Lord Jesus on about every page of the Bible, from the left side throughout the right side, OT and NT. My Lord Jesus did not change religion, as example not one jot nor title did He change from the Law. He fulfilled it. He was seen at the temple prayers daily multiple times daily. He read studied lived and loved His Father's word. He lived and honored the Bible He read. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logostician Posted May 28, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 380 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted May 28, 2020 I agree completely. Christianity is not a religion. Religions are defined by rites and rituals performed by its followers. We don't have rites and rituals. We have Jesus. The finished work of the cross negates the need for any rites and rituals on our part. What Jesus did and continues to do is sufficient for everything we need. If we try to add to it, we actually subtract from it. We are called on to be holy, and to love God and our neighbors. But this is not hollow ritual, it is active participation in the kingdom of heaven. We do not engage in symbolism. We engage in life as God intended us to live with him and each other. Christianity is not a religion. It is reality. Jesus really created the universe. He really saved us from the wages of sin by his work on the cross. He really is the eternal King of Kings and Lord of Lord's. And he really does love us. It's a wonderful reality. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted May 28, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 54 Topic Count: 1,310 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 13,348 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 17,071 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Logostician said: I agree completely. Christianity is not a religion. Religions are defined by rites and rituals performed by its followers. We don't have rites and rituals. We have Jesus. The finished work of the cross negates the need for any rites and rituals on our part. What Jesus did and continues to do is sufficient for everything we need. If we try to add to it, we actually subtract from it. We are called on to be holy, and to love God and our neighbors. But this is not hollow ritual, it is active participation in the kingdom of heaven. We do not engage in symbolism. We engage in life as God intended us to live with him and each other. Christianity is not a religion. It is reality. Jesus really created the universe. He really saved us from the wages of sin by his work on the cross. He really is the eternal King of Kings and Lord of Lord's. And he really does love us. It's a wonderful reality. You have stated that so beautifully. If anyone asks me what religion I am, I tell them being a Christian is not really about religion...rather it's about our faith in Christ as our Savior. Having a personal relationship with God through Christ. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Crocker Posted May 31, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,621 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 3,243 Days Won: 7 Joined: 04/08/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/15/1973 Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 5/28/2020 at 3:38 AM, Debp said: You have stated that so beautifully. If anyone asks me what religion I am, I tell them being a Christian is not really about religion...rather it's about our faith in Christ as our Savior. Having a personal relationship with God through Christ. I can really relate to you because many so called Christians or organizations have asked me what church do I go to or what denomination am I? I always tell them I’m just a believer in the truth in the Bible. Even the name of a Christian you can get the stereotypical views of others. Names and titles are only divisions that people can define you by this title or this denomination. Belief in Jesus can be the only thing that defines us. Man judges on the outward appearance but God judges our hearts and true motives. It’s definitely our relationship to a person and not our relationship to a creed or church. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 31, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 2,024 Topics Per Day: 0.47 Content Count: 48,896 Content Per Day: 11.45 Reputation: 30,483 Days Won: 227 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Online Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 3:40 AM, Debp said: "Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is the proclamation of the end of religion, not of a new religion, or even of the best of all religions. If the cross is the sign of anything, it's the sign that God has gone out of the religion business and solved all of the world's problems without requiring a single human being to do a single religious thing. What the cross is actually a sign of is the fact that religion can't do a thing about the world's problems - that it never did work and it never will." -Robert Farrar Capon- Is a genuine born again Christianity a religion or a relationship with Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 31, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.11 Reputation: 9,767 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2020 I agree that it is not what the religious people would make it, but in a sense: James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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