Rosenberg57 Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, other one said: They are of the same essence but are individual entities. YAHWEH was existing with the Father from eternal past. YAHWEH is the God of Israel and Moses Aaron and 72others saw the God of Israel, but Jesus says no one has ever seen the Father. John tells us that Jesus existed in the form of God before he was incarnated as a man. He was/is Yahweh. You seem to forget that Moses was bowed down to the GROUND when he met God, And the 72 elders were at the base of the Mountain. Moses never saw GOD. God walked by one time and Moses put his nose to the dirt. You seem to project much into these Scriptures that is not in the Scriptures. Can you provide Scriptural evidence that Moses SAW God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg57 Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg57 Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 Exo_33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg57 Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 SO in answer to the Question of the thread. The LORD speaks to me Face to face. When he speaks it is THUNDERING WORDS. I do not always do what He said to do. I wish I had, He had great things in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 Shalom @Ervin P It's much the same for me as well! Praise Yahweh. It's like a still small voice, without words but yet communicating clearly and deeply into your heart - in concepts and gentle guidance. It reminds me of Isaiah 30:21. May Yahweh continue to bless you with His guidance in the name of His Son, Yeshua. Love & Shalom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 5, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,227 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,950 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Rosenberg57 said: You seem to forget that Moses was bowed down to the GROUND when he met God, And the 72 elders were at the base of the Mountain. Moses never saw GOD. God walked by one time and Moses put his nose to the dirt. You seem to project much into these Scriptures that is not in the Scriptures. Can you provide Scriptural evidence that Moses SAW God? Ex 24:9-11 9 Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11 Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they beheld God, and they ate and drank. NASB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg57 Posted June 6, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 171 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2020 11 hours ago, other one said: Ex 24:9-11 9 Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11 Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they beheld God, and they ate and drank. NASB 1Jn 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. So something is wrong. These verses seem to say opposite things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 6, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,227 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,950 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Rosenberg57 said: 1Jn 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. So something is wrong. These verses seem to say opposite things. not really. just shows that Yahweh is not the father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley L Posted June 6, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2020 This made sense to me: Source: https://www.gotquestions.org/seen-God.html Question: "Has anyone ever seen God?" Answer: The Bible tells us that no one has ever seen God (John 1:18) except the Lord Jesus Christ. In Exodus 33:20, God declares, “You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” These Scriptures seem to contradict other Scriptures which describe various people “seeing” God. For example, Exodus 33:11 describes Moses speaking to God “face to face.” How could Moses speak with God “face to face” if no one can see God’s face and live? In this instance, the phrase “face to face” is a figure of speech indicating they were in very close communion. God and Moses were speaking to each other as if they were two human beings having a close conversation. In Genesis 32:30, Jacob saw God appearing as a man; he did not truly see God. Samson’s parents were terrified when they realized they had seen God (Judges 13:22), but they had only seen Him appearing as an angel. Jesus was God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14) so when people saw Him, they were seeing God. So, yes, God can be “seen” and many people have “seen” God. At the same time, no one has ever seen God revealed in all His glory. In our fallen human condition, if God were to fully reveal Himself to us, we would be consumed and destroyed. Therefore, God veils Himself and appears in forms in which we can “see” Him. However, this is different than seeing God with all His glory and holiness displayed. People have seen visions of God, images of God, and appearances of God, but no one has ever seen God in all His fullness (Exodus 33:20). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonaldBruno Posted June 6, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 452 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/26/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) On 6/4/2020 at 9:25 AM, Ervin P said: I was wandering on how does God Yahweh and His Son Yeshua “ speak” to you? For me, mainly, even before becoming a Christian I used to be big on feeling God, which now I know is the Holy Spirit. These days, yes, through feelings, but also the Bible and other Christians. What about the rest of you? Thoughts are not all self generated. We read stuff, people tell us stuff and we create our own thoughts and ideas. But a thought, an unction as some call it from God appears in your head. You may think that you are just thinking, but this is how God communicates. He outs thoughts into our mind for whatever reason. "You ought to do this ... go this way or don't do that ..." The confusing thing about that is Satan puts thoughts and suggestions there too. We need to be able to discern which way to go. I was walking my dog and suddenly two large dogs charged us, a Mastiff and Shepard. I froze, in a state of shock. I know God at that moment said, "Pick her up." Well, I didn't listen and they attacked. I was knocked down or fainted ... dont really remember from when they were 50 feet away until after it was over and I got up from the street. My dog was crying but got away and ran home - 1 block. I swear I saw him pick her up and shake her like a rag doll as if I was out of my body. They didn't want me. But the strange thing is the Mastiff was just standing there 10 feet away staring up and my dog and the other were far gone. It was as if an angel intervened and stopped him. I even got up, angry and punched him and he still looked straight up. Listen to His voice, its important, especially in crucial times. I have to add that another time 3 dogs ran toward us, not aggressively, but who knows, I picked her up and they just all stopped. Their intent changed quickly. Edited June 7, 2020 by RonaldBruno Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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