The TWO Witnesses?

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On 7/25/2020 at 6:20 AM, Dennis1209 said:

Like many, I've always pondered whom the 'two witnesses' might be? With explanations and supporting scripture, this post would become mammoth, so I'm very brief. Generally, John was given an explanation and interpretation of the visions he was seeing, not so much with the two witnesses, but there are clues. The major traditional train of thought and expositors have been Enoch & Elijah, Elijah & Moses, someone representing the Old and New Testaments. 

I ran across an explanation I found intriguing. Scripture interprets scripture and I let go my preconceived notions and tried to keep an open mind on a 'different view'. Like I said above, I'm letting scripture interpret scripture and it would take a lot of ink to explain this view point so I'm extremely brief. Revelation is full of symbolism, and that symbolism is either explained then and there in Revelation, or found elsewhere in the Bible. If we can answer some key questions, the picture becomes clear and makes much more sense. 

(1) Exactly whom is the 'Olive Tree'? (2) Whom is the 'Wild Olive Tree'? (3) Who is the vine and who is the branch, and who's grafted in? (4) Are the two witnesses two individuals or two people groups [Jew's & Gentiles]? (5) What is that 'great city? (6) Like many other places in the Bible, is the 3.5 days the two witnesses lay dead in the streets of that city, representative for not 3.5 literal days but, three and a half years? (7) A witness must witness and experience something first hand, and give personal testimony, nothing second-hand or hearsay. What did these two witnesses witness and when?

For brevity, I'll let scripture answer the first two questions.

Romans 11:17 (KJV) And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Romans 11:24 (KJV) For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

Here we have two trees, two people witness groups, the believing Jew's and Gentiles. A good scriptural case is made the 'two witnesses' in the tribulation are the Messianic Jew's and Gentile believers. Anyone ever heard this view point before?

If anyone is interested I can expound on answering the rest of the proposed questions. I'm not saying my traditional long held view has changed but, this is something I find plausible and very interesting. 

 

Hi Dennis1209,

If you can understand what the meaning of Zech 4:1-14, then you will know who the 2 witnesses are.

What are the 2 olive trees and the 2 olive branches of vs. 11-12?

What is the meaning of the vision to king Zerubbabel?

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On 7/25/2020 at 6:20 AM, Dennis1209 said:

 

If anyone is interested I can expound on answering the rest of the proposed questions. I'm not saying my traditional long held view has changed but, this is something I find plausible and very interesting. 

 

The 2 witnesses are the people of Israel.

They hold the scriptures that witness of Jesus and eternal life, the Law and the Prophets

The blessings of God, of a spiritual Holy Spirit (oil) living relationship flow through the scriptures to the world, through Israel, the olive tree and branches.

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The message to the king was God's confirmation of that promise, that His blessings are going to continue to flow through Israel.

God was behind his effort to rebuild Jerusalem.

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The 2 Witnesses (2W's) in the Revelation show the people of Israel restored to Jerusalem after the times of the gentiles. (1967)

The abilities shown are related to the power of the scriptures to bring life or judgment on souls.

Since Israel holds the knowledge of the scriptures, their testimony means spiritual life or death.