What Is Sin?

[Fidei Defensor]

17 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

One of the lessons we learn is to resist the temptation to sin. I would describe that as willpower.

Actually it takes Christ working in us to help us die to sinful behaviors (habits). Just when you think you’ve mastered a sin (defeated it) on your own, you’ve done another one. 

Paul said of himself, “The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost” (1 Timothy 1:15). 

Paul wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament and yet described himself thus. 

[johnthebaptist]

13 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Actually it takes Christ working in us to help us die to sinful behaviors (habits). Just when you think you’ve mastered a sin (defeated it) on your own, you’ve done another one. 

Paul said of himself, “The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost” (1 Timothy 1:15). 

Paul wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament and yet described himself thus. 

Actually, it's partnership with the Lord. If we aren't willing to put forth the effort to resist temptation, we will get nowhere.

Edited July 27, 2020 by johnthebaptist
misspelled "forth"

[Michael37]

6 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Actually it takes Christ working in us to help us die to sinful behaviors (habits). Just when you think you’ve mastered a sin (defeated it) on your own, you’ve done another one. 

Paul said of himself, “The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost” (1 Timothy 1:15). 

Paul wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament and yet described himself thus. 

Very long side blurbs could be a sin...

[Michael37]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

Actually, it's partnership with the Lord. If we aren't willing to put for the effort to resist temptation, we will get nowhere.

Yes. Sin may be crouching at the door, even knocking on it, but it can only enter if we let it.

Resist the devil and he will flee. Give the devil no foothold. Cast aside the sin that so easily thwarts...etc.

[enoob57]

What is sin... The Bible teaches us that it has no substance / place with God

1 John 1:5-6

5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
KJV

The uniqueness of reality is to examine lie- in that- in order for lie to exist truth must first be and we see this in the fall of Lucifer now called satan...
Lucifer was perfect in all His ways according to God

Ezek 28:14-15

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
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15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created,

This is seen here in the sanctification of all God created

Gen 2:1-3

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
KJV

Lucifer's fall was sometime after this sanctified creation which takes us to the begin of evil by lie...

Satan was given the ability to examine himself and what was given him to give back to The Glory God He kept as though it was his without God's doing...

Ezek 28:16-17

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
KJV

The first lie formed was the theft of what he was as though God had no part in it and the second result from the first inward lie was the he would be god
this is why God refers to satan as a murderous liar...
John 8:44
 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
NKJV

He lied to himself in that he would be god

Isa 14:13-14

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
KJV

this is the source of evil that is among us and it has no place with God nor should it with us born of God...

[Fidei Defensor]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

Actually, it's partnership with the Lord. If we aren't willing to put forth the effort to resist temptation, we will get nowhere.

Resist is one thing, Willpower to be sinless is another. 

Only Jesus Christ is sinless. 

[johnthebaptist]

16 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Resist is one thing, Willpower to be sinless is another. 

Only Jesus Christ is sinless. 

We've all sinned but we can stop, with the Lord's help.

[Fidei Defensor]

14 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

We've all sinned but we can stop, with the Lord's help.

I suggest we can only stop practicing sin  through Christ in us (Colossians 1:27, 1 John 4:15), For He became sin for us who commited no sin, and died on the cross for our sins. Only He living in us can lead us into habits that are not sinful, i.e. practicing sin. 

Do you make distinction between practicing sin and stumbling in sin? Is the goal you are setting forth to stop praticing sin? 

Practicing Sin: 

“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.” (1 John 3:9)

“And envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:21)

To practice sin is to master it, to say even that it is not sin, which is calling God a liar, “If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts”(1 John 1:10). 

Stumbling in Sin:

”If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9) 

“1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:1-2)

Stumbling in Sin is we all fail, we make a mistakes and transgress, but then we confess the sin, are forgiven, and ask Christ to help us not sin again. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Fidei Defensor

[johnthebaptist]

6 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

I suggest we can only stop practicing sin  through Christ in us (Colossians 1:27, 1 John 4:15), For He became sin for us who commited no sin, and died on the cross for our sins. Only He living in us can lead us into habits that are not sinful, i.e. practicing sin. 

Do you make distinction between practicing sin and stumbling in sin? Is the goal you are setting forth to stop praticing sin? 

Practicing Sin: 

“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.” (1 John 3:9)

“And envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:21)

To practice sin is to master it, to say even that it is not sin, which is calling God a liar, “If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts”(1 John 1:10). 

Stumbling in Sin:

”If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9) 

“1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:1-2)

Stumbling in Sin is we all fail, we make a mistakes and transgress, but then we confess the sin, are forgiven, and ask Christ to help us not sin again. 

The Lord told us to repent of our sin (Matt 4:17). I suggest we do as he said. We can ask him to help us.

But it's back to the purpose of the thread: We have to know what we are repenting of. The Pharisees added all kinds of rules on top of the rules the Lord gives us to follow. That is a mistake.

[Fidei Defensor]

3 hours ago, Josheb said:

Do you believe a person can become sinless to the point of never again sinning on this side of the grave and thereby no longer need to repent?

That’s been my question all along. 

I keep reiterating on Jesus is sinless (1 Peter 2:21-22, 2 Corinthians 5:20-21, Hebrews 4:14-15, and 1 John 3:5).