A vaccine - really?

[ReneeIW]

8 hours ago, DeafMouse said:

Therefore, the bacterial infection did not come from Covid -- but possibly from the ventilators

I’m not sure if this has been talked about in the press( I stopped tuning in months ago) but not all doctors and nurses know how to properly use ventilators. So I think you may be on to something with the bacteria infections coming from ventilators. I have personal experience with this. And we are very fortunate that it is not affecting kids (for the most part) because from my experience, doctors know less about how to properly use ventilators on children.  

Edited August 4, 2020 by ReneeIW

[DeafMouse]

A few doctors in our area actually took swabs that are used to test for covid, did not use them on anyone at all, left them in the package, sent them to the lab to be tested (without having used them on anyone) and got positive results back from the swabs.  they did this at our hospital too. 

This means one of 2 things: 

1) Swabs being used for testing are laced with Covid,

OR

2) they are randomly claiming swabs used for testing as positive even if they are negative.

Doctors are not allowed to publically state their findings which I believe is unjust, unfair, and a lot of other 'un' things.  If they were, many would be speaking up about how this is being handled and how the tests are not accurate, etc.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, DeafMouse said:

We got flu shots when they first came out --- we got very sick with the flu that winter.

We did not get anymore flu shots in the years after that --- we have never been sick at all with anything since.

I am curious to know how many critical patients with covid have gotten the flu shot.

Also, the fact that the deaths are from bacterial infection in the lungs, nobody is realizing --- Covid is a virus not a bacteria.  Therefore, the bacterial infection did not come from Covid -- but possibly from the ventilators being used or masks being worn would be the logical explanation.  A virus is not bacterial and a bacterial infection isn't a virus.  They are 2 different things.  Bacterial infections usually respond to antibiotics, but a virus will not respond to antibiotics.  So:  Person has covid (a virus) and they are put on a ventilator (which causes bacteria build up in the system) they are given an antibiotic which covid a virus does not respond to and covid is weakening the system so the bacterial infection can now take over....

ok that was way too much thinking but there is a lot to think about in these times.

As for the vaccine --- I will not be getting it. 

 

You really need to research this virus more and not spread false information. 

Covid19 has been classified as a vascular virus because it attacks blood vessels in heart lungs brain everywhere. 

In the lungs it causes horrible inflammation that, if you survive can cause serious scarring. 

In the heart and brain it causes blood clots that can lead to stokes.

Secondly bacterial infection is a problem but often not and therefore not the cause of death. 

Last spring I was in great shape.   Mountain climbing on a regular basis.  Running up and down steep hills all over a huge university campus because I had many classes all over the place.

This spring i got Covid19. 

Although I have recovered from Covid19 as in the viral infection is over, I have severe lung damage (never had bacterial infection nor was on respirator), and severe heart damage. 

I can barely function. 

I would have been better off dead than having survived.

We need to take this disease seriously.....it's not a joke.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, DeafMouse said:

A few doctors in our area actually took swabs that are used to test for covid, did not use them on anyone at all, left them in the package, sent them to the lab to be tested (without having used them on anyone) and got positive results back from the swabs.  they did this at our hospital too. 

This means one of 2 things: 

1) Swabs being used for testing are laced with Covid,

OR

2) they are randomly claiming swabs used for testing as positive even if they are negative.

Doctors are not allowed to publically state their findings which I believe is unjust, unfair, and a lot of other 'un' things.  If they were, many would be speaking up about how this is being handled and how the tests are not accurate, etc.

I don't believe this story for a split second.  Please don't spread untrue stories about this disease. 

If the swabs were still in the test kits as you claim they would have never been tested due to the fact it would be obvious that they had never been used.

Please take this disease seriously.  It is not a joke. 

[DeafMouse]

I take it seriously as a virus out there, I do not take seriously all the misinformation spread.

As for what I stated about drs sending in the unused swabs, it is TRUE.  Just because you don't believe doesn't make it untrue.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, DeafMouse said:

I take it seriously as a virus out there, I do not take seriously all the misinformation spread.

As for what I stated about drs sending in the unused swabs, it is TRUE.  Just because you don't believe doesn't make it untrue.

They should have sent unused swabs from test kits that had been opened.  

If the test kit had not been open they would not have opened it and tested the swap inside.  

Just think about what you are saying. 

An unused swab testing positive raises questions. 

Opening up a test kit and testing that swab makes no sense.  They would just discard it.

And we still have the question of the false information that you posted in the other post I quoted about bacterial infection. 

[DeafMouse]

I stated they left the swabs "in the package'.  Nowhere did I say they were not opened. 

I did not post false information.

I work in the medical field.

Not sure who your 'we' is as you are the only one going on. 

We all have our own opinions and beliefs and all have a right to them.

Again I didn't post anything false at all, thats your opinion it is false and you have a right to it.

Edited August 4, 2020 by DeafMouse

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, DeafMouse said:

I stated they left the swabs "in the package'.  Nowhere did I say they were not opened. 

I did not post false information.

I work in the medical field.

Left in the package certainly sounded like unopened. 

 

[Guest]

Just now, ChickenCoop said:

Left in the package certainly sounded like unopened. 

 

I have lost interest in this swab story.  You seem to focus on that one as a way of avoiding my reply to your other post about bacterial infections being the cause of death which is seldom the case. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, ChickenCoop said:

You really need to research this virus more and not spread false information. 

Covid19 has been classified as a vascular virus because it attacks blood vessels in heart lungs brain everywhere. 

In the lungs it causes horrible inflammation that, if you survive can cause serious scarring. 

In the heart and brain it causes blood clots that can lead to stokes.

Secondly bacterial infection is a problem but often not and therefore not the cause of death. 

Last spring I was in great shape.   Mountain climbing on a regular basis.  Running up and down steep hills all over a huge university campus because I had many classes all over the place.

This spring i got Covid19. 

Although I have recovered from Covid19 as in the viral infection is over, I have severe lung damage (never had bacterial infection nor was on respirator), and severe heart damage. 

I can barely function. 

I would have been better off dead than having survived.

We need to take this disease seriously.....it's not a joke.

I repeat @DeafMouse