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The abomination of desolation fulfilled in 70 AD!

 

matt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

 

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.


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No, it is still future.


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@Markesmith How do these verses prove that the AOD has already occurred?

@missmuffet How do we know that the AOD is still a future event?


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No, it is still future
really? What does “this generation” mean?


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6 minutes ago, Knotical said:

@Markesmith How do these verses prove that the AOD has already occurred?

@missmuffet How do we know that the AOD is still a future event?

Matthew 24:15

Daniel 9:27

It is the Antichrist who in the end times will establish a covenant with Israel for 7 years. 


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How do these verses prove that the AOD has already occurred?
 

It was already declared desolate by Christ!

 

Matt 23:38! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the army of Titus did encompass Jerusalem and destroyed the temple

 


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55 minutes ago, Markesmith said:

The abomination of desolation fulfilled in 70 AD!

 

matt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

 

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Hi Markesmith,

I agree with you that the AoD happened in the 70 ADish time frame.

They are killed by the sword.

Become slaves of all nations.

Jerusalem has been trodden down since 70 AD.

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The AoD was Titus Caesar and the armies of Rome walking through the temple, through the Holy places, where gentiles were not permitted.

Caesar is the Antichrist, but not just one, it is all the Caesars, all of them are the Antichrist. It is not exclusively one person, one lifetime.

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If you believe the the AoD was fulfilled, 

Then what are the times of the gentiles (ToG's)? How long do they last? 70 AD until, when? 

What is the event that brings the ToG's to it's end?

 


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Just my opinion not Bible but I think it’s the second coming


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22 minutes ago, abcdef said:

70 AD until

Do not forget the 'sign of the son of man'. In Jerusalem over 500 daily were crucified. They ran out of crosses and places to put them. This continued for a long time. The place was a bloodbath and the soldiers amused themselves by nailing people in weird and contorted position. NASTY. It was absolutely devastating.


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28 minutes ago, Markesmith said:

Just my opinion not Bible but I think it’s the second coming

The ToG's end when the power of the unbelieving gentile nations lose control over Jerusalem to Israel.

That is when the trampling power of the gentiles over the city of Jerusalem ends, when Israel has complete military control over Jerusalem.

Times of the gentiles 70 AD until 1967.

The restoration of Jerusalem to Israel (Matt 24:30-31, "gather together his elect"), is one of the signs of His resurrection/rapture coming.

The trumpet that sounds is the 5th trumpet (5 is the number for separation or division), and not the 7th trumpet.

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The reason that this is confusing to many is,

Understanding that there is a difference between His coming/presence at the 70 AD destruction,

And His second coming resurrection/rapture for salvation and the kingdom.

 

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