God has vaccinated the early church on Pentecost Day

[R. Hartono]

Its about the vaccine against the virus of death that infected mankind since the time of Adam and Eve.

And the only cure to heal mankind from eternal death is the Holy Spirit baptism as the antidote against the virus of death.

Almighty God has promised this vaccine to make sure of our redemption from death.

Acts 1:4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about".

Ephesians 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.

The early church absolutely believe in Jesus resurrection but see that Jesus told them to wait in Jerusalem because Holy Spirit was not yet given to the church despite of their faith in Him.

Holy Spirit baptism is the seal of salvation at the Day of our Redemption : Ephesians 4:30 You were sealed by Him for the day of redemption (rapture).

John the baptist only immerse people with ceremonial water, but he didnt have the antidote against death, as John answered them all, Luke 3:16 "I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire".

Holy Spirit is bringing us the contract of engagement to our door, we need to sign it : 2 Cor 11: 2 For I am jealous over you with Godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

However many believers just say this : "Holy Spirit baptism ? No thanks we already have Jesus here"

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/232084-water-baptism-and-holy-spirit-baptism-are-two-different-issues/

The foolish virgins ask the wise to give them the oil, this shows that these foolish believers hope that their RELATION and EXISTENCE in church can save them but they are left behind and yelled "Lord Loord..........".

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by R. Hartono

[R. Hartono]

It looks like the topic of The Holy Spirit baptism is not favourable here.

[JohnR7]

On 8/27/2020 at 1:19 AM, R. Hartono said:

Its about the vaccine against the virus of death that infected mankind since the time of Adam and Eve.

And the only cure to heal mankind from eternal death is the Holy Spirit baptism as the antidote against the virus of death.

The Blood of Jesus protects us from the Plague. This is what passover is all about and this is why Jesus had to die before passover. In 2020 this became very real that we need the Precious Blood of Jesus on the doorpost of our house to protect us from the plague. Just like the Hebrew children needed to apply the blood of the lamb to their door post when they were still in Egypt. "When the LORD goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down." (Exodus 12:23)

[R. Hartono]

7 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

The Blood of Jesus protects us from the Plague. This is what passover is all about and this is why Jesus had to die before passover. In 2020 this became very real that we need the Precious Blood of Jesus on the doorpost of our house to protect us from the plague. Just like the Hebrew children needed to apply the blood of the lamb to their door post when they were still in Egypt. "When the LORD goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down." (Exodus 12:23)

The blood is meaning as dowry / MOHAR (Jesus has purchased the bride with His life) but still the contract for marriage shud be sent and signed (ketubah). Thats why Jesus told early church not to leave Jerusalem as they hv to rcv the Holy Spirit without bargaining. You see the picture i posted above ? People shut the door they say they hv Jesus already.

Its important that we belong to God in the day of Redemption.

Ephesians 4:30 You were sealed by Him for the day of redemption (rapture).

Edited September 11, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Don19]

Yes, very true! Having the Holy Spirit is the difference between being saved and lost. And if saved, then the Holy Spirit eternally seals the believer and witnesses this with our spirit. Jesus promised the Comforter would abide with us forever (John 14:16).

The promise of the Spirit is salvation itself, for no one can belong to Christ who does not have His Spirit (Rom 8:9).

Gal 3:14:

That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

1 Thess 1:4-5:

4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

Romans 8:16:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

The kingdom of God is not in word but in power (1 Cor 4:20). Paul warned that in the perilous times of the last days, men would have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof (2 Tim 3:5). Jesus warned that the one who shall blaspheme against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. It's not that there's any particular sin or blasphemy that cannot be forgiven (quite the contrary - Mark 3:28), but that this sin is brought forth from the evil treasure of the heart, and that a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. So Jesus spoke of this sin as evidence of unregeneracy, of not being in His kingdom. Can you put 2 and 2 together? By the power of His Spirit, and His witness of our salvation, this perfect love casts out fear just as Jesus cast out devils by the power of the Holy Spirit (1 John 4:18), and by these exceeding great and precious promises, given by the power of God, are we made partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust (2 Peter 1:3-4).

[JohnR7]

25 minutes ago, Don19 said:

Having the Holy Spirit is the difference between being saved and lost.

Everyone has their name written in the Book of life. The question has to do with who is blotted out: "The LORD replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot out of My book." (Exodus 32:33) 

Revelation 3:5
Like them, the one who is victorious will be dressed in white. And I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father and His angels.

[JohnR7]

On 9/11/2020 at 1:11 AM, R. Hartono said:

the contract for marriage shud be sent and signed (ketubah)

Jacob had a contract for marriage with Rachael but he ended up with her sister. No one seemed to want Leah. There must be a message about marriage in that story. Then there was the story of Ruth and Boez. Even though he was old and she was a widow. 

[iamlamad]

On 8/27/2020 at 12:19 AM, R. Hartono said:

Its about the vaccine against the virus of death that infected mankind since the time of Adam and Eve.

And the only cure to heal mankind from eternal death is the Holy Spirit baptism as the antidote against the virus of death.

Almighty God has promised this vaccine to make sure of our redemption from death.

Acts 1:4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about".

Ephesians 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.

The early church absolutely believe in Jesus resurrection but see that Jesus told them to wait in Jerusalem because Holy Spirit was not yet given to the church despite of their faith in Him.

Holy Spirit baptism is the seal of salvation at the Day of our Redemption : Ephesians 4:30 You were sealed by Him for the day of redemption (rapture).

John the baptist only immerse people with ceremonial water, but he didnt have the antidote against death, as John answered them all, Luke 3:16 "I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire".

Holy Spirit is bringing us the contract of engagement to our door, we need to sign it : 2 Cor 11: 2 For I am jealous over you with Godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

However many believers just say this : "Holy Spirit baptism ? No thanks we already have Jesus here"

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/232084-water-baptism-and-holy-spirit-baptism-are-two-different-issues/

The foolish virgins ask the wise to give them the oil, this shows that these foolish believers hope that their RELATION and EXISTENCE in church can save them but they are left behind and yelled "Lord Loord..........".

You are confusing the baptism in the Holy Spirit (for power) with the born again experience (for Salvation.) They are two different works of the Holy Spirit: Salvation (regeneration) always comes first.

[Your closest friendnt]

 

 

On 9/11/2020 at 1:11 AM, R. Hartono said:

The blood is meaning as dowry / MOHAR (Jesus has purchased the bride with His life) but still the contract for marriage shud be sent and signed (ketubah). Thats why Jesus told early church not to leave Jerusalem as they hv to rcv the Holy Spirit without bargaining. You see the picture i posted above ? People shut the door they say they hv Jesus already.

Its important that we belong to God in the day of Redemption.

Ephesians 4:30 You were sealed by Him for the day of redemption (rapture).

 

I tried to understand a number of things..

First and second and third....

First there is a big mistake in your posting that you claim that the disciples were not saved before the day of Penticost...

That will include that no one was saved before the day of Penticost...

That the first to be saved were the disciples of Jesus Christ on the day of Penticost...

Then according to you Abraham was not Saved...and him and all his offsprings were lost or what...

From the Bossom of Abraham they are now in the pit of Hell...

Is that what you are saying or you have something else for them...

I am ready to see similar situations as in the situation where you are adding at the end of scriptures or at any other time your own side path, as in this situation;

 

From your post above **Ephesians 4:30 You were sealed by Him for the day of redemption ***(rapture).****

From your post above;

***Its important that we belong to God in the day of Redemption****

So according to your understanding we must belong to God at the day of Redemption (Rapture)..

Are you saying what?

to whom ...only to those who are alive.  

How someone belongs to God? 

Does one needs to believe in Jesus Christ and for what? 

[JohnR7]

3 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

That will include that no one was saved before the day of Penticost...

Everyone is in the book of life from the foundation of the world. There has to be a reason why their name is blotted out of the book. "The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book." (Exodus 32:33) "You have rebuked the nations, You have destroyed the wicked; You have blotted out their name forever and ever." (Psalm 9:5)