Pestilence

[RonaldBruno]

Does everyone agree that this is the biggest spiritual war the world has seen in our generation? It is  diabolical.

This virus is surrounded by lies and deception. It has created fear which is how Satan goes out an conquers the world.

The rebellious and terrorist protests are also part of the evil. Ee are now being warned that if Biden doesnt win, America will suffer great violence. Control, manipulate the public by fear, threats.

We cannot fix this world or this country because sin stands in the way. It is growing, getting out of control and needs to be judged.

 Good and evil have reached the precipice and will soon be separated.

[Who me]

On 9/5/2020 at 2:35 PM, RonaldBruno said:

Does everyone agree that this is the biggest spiritual war the world has seen in our generation

 

No. The biggest and most successful spiritual war is the campaign of apathy that causes Christians to be slack in their discipline of daily spiritual living.

That causes non Christians to put off finding answers to spiritual questions they have.

 

How often do the people you work with have a real conversation about spiritual things?

 

Try starting one by asking, the next time one of them blasphemes, why do you use words that to you have no meaning, yet they have a precise meaning. That you an agnostic/atheist are calling on God. Why do you do that?

See how the conversation quickly dries up as they decline to give reasons for there blasphemy.

[RonaldBruno]

20 hours ago, Who me said:

No. The biggest and most successful spiritual war is the campaign of apathy that causes Christians to be slack in their discipline of daily spiritual living

"The workers are few" is just a statement of fact.

What does God's sovereignty mean to you?

I'll tell you what it means to me. He is in control _ of everything. His plan is perfect and will be carried out perfectly, on schedule, with all who are written in the Book of Life saved at their appointed time.

All prophecy could not become true unless He has everything under control and that means He has factored into His plan all our weaknesses and failures, allows sin and evil _for a purpose.

There are now 2.5 billion Christians who put their faith in Christ. Some have little faith and some great. Faith is a gift and He also prepares  each individual  for work to do, equipping them with various gifts  and so we all participate in the body as an organism. Does God expect all of us to be like Billy Graham or even all pastors. Eph.4:11 states the evangelism is a gift and apparently not everyone has this gift. I know people with this gift that bring in loads of people when others with the same knowledge and heart bring none or just a few.

We all know that God prepares each individual for salvation in a unique way that He orchestrates. He ordained people and events to come into their lives, draws them to that divine appointment and lifts the veil, enabling them to see. 

 Individually, each of us have a spiritual war with the flesh, and yes, selfishness can amount to apathy. Discipline comes in time, so we see all levels of loving your neighbor. If a person remains selfish and apathetic, "by their fruit you will know them". Most likely they do not have the Holy Spirit. The Word and the Spirit will transform this person.

Realize that there are tares among the wheat.

Don't worry, His plan cannot be delayed or messed up by Satan or man's apathy. Christianity is right on track, to say it isn't would be saying God is not sovereign. 

[Who me]

2 hours ago, RonaldBruno said:

The workers are few" is just a statement of fact.

 

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2 hours ago, RonaldBruno said:

Don't worry

I am totally at a loss to know what the has to do with the greatest spiritual battle of today.

[RonaldBruno]

2 hours ago, Who me said:

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I am totally at a loss to know what the has to do with the greatest spiritual battle of today.

You said apathy is the biggest spiritual war. Apathy is a personal battle between  the Spirit and the flesh. 

My original post stated that we are in a major spiritual war against enemy.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Eph. 6:12

Satan is using fear and deception surrounding this pestilence. People are under this dark cloud, kind of in a spell, that has rendered many fearfully isolated and immobilized. Some are afraid - still - to leave their homes.

THIS spiritual war  has effectively prevented the world from going to church for months and now we are fighting back, they are opening up again. It has also separated people, prevented personal contact and even smiles unseen. No warm hugs from anyone. What effect does this have on people, hearts actually grow cold. You can't even help (love) others - you have to stay away. Happiness was taken away for months. Much more of this and hearts will grow cold, getting use to this disconnect - having no choice but to accept it. 

Satan wants us afraid, in doubt, would like us to be disconnected with each other and unable to go to church. He would fuel hate and racism, terrorism, anarchy. 

Life has changed. So you think people are apathetic to all this?

But my other point was God is sovereign and allowing this - for a purpose. If a person is unloving/apathetic about life, they are probably not born again.

But please don't just strip two sentences out of context of my entire post, then claim it has nothing to do with spiritual warfare. 

Actually, I heard John Macarthur teach that this darkness the world is under, is not just biological, it is a spiritual war.

And the "don't worry" is meany for encouragement, that God is in control and has a plan.

Fear is the opposite of faith, so realize that and that Satan is on a warpath. 

[missmuffet]

On 9/5/2020 at 6:35 AM, RonaldBruno said:

Does everyone agree that this is the biggest spiritual war the world has seen in our generation? It is  diabolical.

This virus is surrounded by lies and deception. It has created fear which is how Satan goes out an conquers the world.

The rebellious and terrorist protests are also part of the evil. Ee are now being warned that if Biden doesnt win, America will suffer great violence. Control, manipulate the public by fear, threats.

We cannot fix this world or this country because sin stands in the way. It is growing, getting out of control and needs to be judged.

 Good and evil have reached the precipice and will soon be separated.

God has allowed this virus in our world. He has a plan for this earth. I will leave it at that and not try to control the circumstances. 

[Who me]

On 9/16/2020 at 8:22 PM, RonaldBruno said:

THIS spiritual war  has effectively prevented the world from going to church for months

 

In many areas of the world Christians cannot openly meet to worship and that does not stop them from worshipping or in witnessing.

We do not actually need the big magnificent buildings or the humbler local buildings to operate as a Christian community.

 

There is also the witness of church organisations. So your church is going to defy the government and hold ' normal' church services, how will your neighbours view you if two weeks later most of your elderly members are down with the virus?

How will they view your church if cases have spiked in the area around your church building and those members public spirited enough to have the track and trace app on their phone, unfortunately show the cause is infected church members.

 

It's is a great witness of a total lack of love towards the vunerable.

 

Obey the regulations, and serve God. Or as Jesus put it, Give to Ceased what is readers and to God what is God's.

[RonaldBruno]

51 minutes ago, Who me said:

There is also the witness of church organisations. So your church is going to defy the government and hold ' normal' church services, how will your neighbours view you if two weeks later most of your elderly members are down with the virus?

How will they view your church if cases have spiked in the area around your church building and those members public spirited enough to have the track and trace app on their phone, unfortunately show the cause is infected church members.

John MacArthur sued the state of California. His church, Grace Community Church defied  orders to not congregate. His church disobeyed that order and has full capacity attendance for weeks now. Bravo to Christians to stand up to Government jerks like Gavin Newsome. That governor is ruining the state, a sanctuary state. Florida is now 100% open. Texas and most of the country will follow soon. Of course the Democrats want the country to be shut down until after the election. It's political and the whole pandemic is demonic in nature. Again George Soros has stock in the Wuhan Lab and also several bio-labs in this country -- Oh the implications we can draw from that! He funded BLM ($150million), and will continue to wreck havoc, cause chaos. Bill Gates invested $10 billion in labs and vaccine research and production. I don't think has good intentions either. I stand firm, it is all diabolical.

 

[Jedi4Yahweh]

20 minutes ago, RonaldBruno said:

John MacArthur sued the state of California. His church, Grace Community Church defied  orders to not congregate. His church disobeyed that order and has full capacity attendance for weeks now. Bravo to Christians to stand up to Government jerks like Gavin Newsome. That governor is ruining the state, a sanctuary state. Florida is now 100% open. Texas and most of the country will follow soon. Of course the Democrats want the country to be shut down until after the election. It's political and the whole pandemic is demonic in nature. Again George Soros has stock in the Wuhan Lab and also several bio-labs in this country -- Oh the implications we can draw from that! He funded BLM ($150million), and will continue to wreck havoc, cause chaos. Bill Gates invested $10 billion in labs and vaccine research and production. I don't think has good intentions either. I stand firm, it is all diabolical.

 

I agree the COIVD-19 is a satanic agenda. Wait till they start mandating COVID-19 vaccination or you will not be able to work or enter public establishments with out it.  Do some research on the ID2020 and the Covid-19 Vaccine.  

Edited September 28, 2020 by Jedi4Yahweh

[RonaldBruno]

2 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

I agree the COIVD-19 is a satanic agenda. Wait till they start mandating COVID-19 vaccination or you will not be able to work or enter public establishments with out it.  Do some research on the ID2020 and the Covid-19 Vaccine.  

Not sure, but I think there is a race between Gates/Soros vaccine and legitimate vaccines from several companies that Trump has been overseeing. 

I do not need a vaccine and will not take one. I sustain my health by  using natural cures. I've been anti-vaccine for awhile - since the rise of Autism its possible connection with mercury.