Can we all agree?

[JohnD]

Prophecy is more than only telling the future.

Prophecy (whose root word is profess) is on its own

merely stating something.

Professing can be about the past, present, or the future.

The word prophecy does not always mean predictive prophecy. 

Prophecy can even be false (the makings of a false prophet).

Edited October 2, 2020 by JohnD

[JohnD]

2 Peter 1:20–21 (AV)
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The entire Bible is prophetic.

 

 

[JohnD]

2 Peter 1:20–21 (AV)
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The entire Bible is prophetic.

 

 

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, JohnD said:

Prophecy is more than only telling the future.

Prophecy (whose root word is profess) is on its own

merely stating something.

Professing can be about the past, present, or the future.

The word prophecy does not always mean predictive prophecy. 

Prophecy can even be false (the makings of a false prophet).

Interesting thread @JohnD

Here is my useful list of functions for the perfecting of the saints for the work of ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ:

1. The apostle is sent forth and goes forth.
2. The prophet is made aware and speaks forth.
3. The evangelist is on message and calls forth.
4. The pastor is on watch and cares for.
5. The teacher is able to explain, train, and inform. 

[Diaste]

6 hours ago, JohnD said:

2 Peter 1:20–21 (AV)
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The entire Bible is prophetic.

The Bible is its own best commentary. Prophecy is the word of God which sometimes speaks of future... sometimes of the present, sometimes of the past. A prophet is only the tool God uses. So, it is not about the prophet, but about the God who uses the prophet to speak his word. For even the reading, teaching, or expounding upon the passages of the scriptures we have under our very noses is prophetic. Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

 

Are you saying the prophet speaks and it is from God? Are you saying the only prophecy from God in is scripture? 

[JohnD]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

Are you saying the prophet speaks and it is from God? Are you saying the only prophecy from God in is scripture? 

Prophecy / prophesy = profess.

Prophet = professor.

The statement made is a profession.

That's what I am saying.

People attach special or mystical significance to the words prophet / prophecy (that or just plain religious superstition) 

which are words in scripture only meant to mean the words spoken from God by the messengers speaking them.

The significance is in the God who has spoken. He's the one the oos and ahs should be about. The God who knows all

has spoken.

 

[JohnD]

Does God speak / prophesy outside of the Bible?

Of course.

2 Peter 1:21 says as much.

And if He did not, we wouldn't even have a Bible.

But before you believe every kook who says "thus saith the LORD..."

you have to put it (and everything) to the test (1 Thessalonians 5:21 / 1 John 4:1)

of scripture (Acts 17:11 / 2 Timothy 3:16-18 / 2 Timothy 2:15  /  Proverbs 25:2 / Deuteronomy 29:29 / Isaiah 28:9-13).

For there are a lot of false prophets in the world.

[Michael37]

12 hours ago, JohnD said:

Prophecy / prophesy = profess.

Prophet = professor.

The statement made is a profession.

No, sorry @JohnD Apart from their suffix these words have different Greek roots, namely  Pro+fess(acknowledge forth) & Pro+phesy( speak forth) as below:

Profess

[Middle English professen, to take vows, from Old French profes, that has taken a religious vow (from Medieval Latin professus, avowed) and from Medieval Latin professāre, to administer a vow, both from Latin professus, past participle of profitērī, to affirm openly : pro-, forth; see pro-1 + fatērī, to acknowledge; see bhā- in Indo-European roots.]

Prophesy

[Middle English prophete, from Old French, from Latin prophēta, from Greek prophētēs : pro-, forth; see pro-2 + -phētēs, speaker (from phanai, to speak; see bhā- in Indo-European roots).]

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[R. Hartono]

13 hours ago, JohnD said:

For there are a lot of false prophets in the world.

Yes, there are thousands of fake prophecies in Youtube, deceiving spirits or illusion only. You may want to vomit if you see them in action on and on for many years with many followers of itching ears

[Michael37]

38 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

No, sorry @JohnD Apart from their suffix PREFIX these words have different Greek roots, namely  Pro+fess(acknowledge forth) & Pro+phesy( speak forth) as below:

Profess

[Middle English professen, to take vows, from Old French profes, that has taken a religious vow (from Medieval Latin professus, avowed) and from Medieval Latin professāre, to administer a vow, both from Latin professus, past participle of profitērī, to affirm openly : pro-, forth; see pro-1 + fatērī, to acknowledge; see bhā- in Indo-European roots.]

Prophesy

[Middle English prophete, from Old French, from Latin prophēta, from Greek prophētēs : pro-, forth; see pro-2 + -phētēs, speaker (from phanai, to speak; see bhā- in Indo-European roots).]

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That should read "apart from their PREFIX..."I have no "edit" function at present.