This November 3rd...

[David1701]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

I am almost certain that there is something in the Bible about caring for the poor. 

Yes, of course, but where does it say that that is the government's task?

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But I think you are missing my point. My point being is that having programs for the needy and health care, cuts down on people feeling the need to seek out an abortion.  In truth, abortions have falling over the past few years.

In Britain (I don't know about America), the government taking the place of Christian assemblies and extended families, in caring for the poor and needy, was started by lobbying from the Salvation Army, in the 1800s.  They meant well, but the upshot has been that people now look to the government to supply their needs and that is very unhealthy.

Edited October 5, 2020 by David1701

[LadyKay]

14 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Yes, of course, but where does it say that that is the government's task?

Well where does it say the government is supposed to protect the unborn?

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 They meant well, but the upshot has been that people now look to the government to supply their needs

Then what is the role of our gov? If it is not to care for the needs of its people? 

 

You all are not getting this. Help programs stop people seeking out the need to have an abortion. Abortions do not stop just because some politician makes them illegal. History will show you that.  Why is this so hard to understand? 

Edited October 5, 2020 by LadyKay

[David1701]

1 minute ago, LadyKay said:

Well where does it say the government is supposed to protect the unborn?

Then what is the role of our gov? If it is not to care for the needs of its people? 

The main roles of government, according to the Bible, are defence of the realm and law and order.

[LadyKay]

Just now, David1701 said:

The main roles of government, according to the Bible, are defence of the realm and law and order.

Well then. Since abortion is legal then the government should uphold that law. Regardless of our feelings. 

[David1701]

Just now, LadyKay said:

Well then. Since abortion is legal then the government should uphold that law. Regardless of our feelings. 

Or, preferably, change the law to make it illegal again, as it should be (except in extreme medical cases).

[LadyKay]

3 minutes ago, David1701 said:

The main roles of government, according to the Bible, are defence of the realm and law and order.

From the Constitution Of The United States 

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[LadyKay]

You all want a "Christian" gov except for that part about caring for the poor.  You all are find with banning abortions and gay people. You all wave your Bible around for that. But talk about caring for the poor and you can justify why you are against that.  Skip over that part of the Bible.  

Rant done thank you to those who are still speaking to me.  

[David1701]

5 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

From the Constitution Of The United States 

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Promoting the general welfare is clearly a good aspiration, but so vague that it could be used to mean almost anything.

[David1701]

6 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

You all want a "Christian" gov except for that part about caring for the poor.  You all are find with banning abortions and gay people. You all wave your Bible around for that. But talk about caring for the poor and you can justify why you are against that.  Skip over that part of the Bible.  

Rant done thank you to those who are still speaking to me.  

Christians and families should care for the poor.  Once government takes over that role (as it has in Britain, to a large extent), many people no longer feel their own responsibility in this regard.

[LadyKay]

14 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Christians and families should care for the poor.  Once government takes over that role (as it has in Britain, to a large extent), many people no longer feel their own responsibility in this regard.

Well clearly we want different roles from our government.  Though I still feel that help for the needy would and dose cut down on the abortions.  I think it would take a very heartless leader to stand and watch people starve in the streets and do nothing about it.  I do not think that a government leader who is a true Christian could do such a thing.  That is just what I think about all of that.