There be GIANTS

[teddyv]

The spies report could easily have been hyperbole to large warriors they witnessed in the area, simply drawing on their ancient history/legends. And it was spoken most likely from the 10 spies who feared going into the promised land. 

[Buddy D. Mouse]

So the flood might not be global, but regional - hmmmm...

Ark settled on a mountain in Ararat - modern day Turkey I think.

How did kangaroos get from there to Australia and New Zealand - and ONLY to Australia and New Zealand?

Ham, Ham's wife and Canaan get more bad press from Bible scholars than Trump gets from the media...

In one of Peter's epistles, it is said that only EIGHT PEOPLE survive the flood.

Doesn't say whether that is 8 in the world or in the region

 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, teddyv said:

The spies report could easily have been hyperbole to large warriors they witnessed in the area, simply drawing on their ancient history/legends. And it was spoken most likely from the 10 spies who feared going into the promised land. 

That's revisionist interpretation of history to be politically correct with a liberal interpretation of scripture.

[Buddy D. Mouse]

I think Saved.One.By.Grace is correct there, teddy

Some of us believe if the spies report said there were GIANTS in the area - there were GIANTS in the area.

Caleb and Joshua saw the same things the other 10 spies did - but  felt "we can take 'em"...

And they did - but didn't totally annihilate everyone they were supposed to.

 

[Buddy D. Mouse]

2Pe 2:4

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment

2Pe 2:5

And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

 

Noah the eighth person - does that mean Noah was 8th from Adam?

I am confused

[Buddy D. Mouse]

Several modern versions say God saved Noah "and seven others" - but the Greek does not say that, says Noah the eighth person - and I cannot tell if Noah was 8th from Adam or not

I think this is important in figuring out if Flood was global or regional. @ Peter makes it sound like the whole world was repopulated from 8 people.

[Marathoner]

According to the book of Genesis Noah was the 10th from Adam, the great-grandson of Enoch who was the 7th from Adam. 

[Marathoner]

43 minutes ago, Episcopius said:

2Pe 2:4

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment

2Pe 2:5

And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

 

Noah the eighth person - does that mean Noah was 8th from Adam?

I am confused

The answer: there were eight people on the ark. 

[Marathoner]

Now Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of water came upon the earth. Then Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives with him entered the ark because of the water of the flood. (Genesis 7:6-7)

Noah and his wife = 2.
His three sons and their wives = 6. 

Edited October 13, 2020 by Marathoner

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Episcopius said:

2Pe 2:4

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment

2Pe 2:5

And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

Noah the eighth person - does that mean Noah was 8th from Adam?

I am confused

There are genealogies from Adam forward.  I haven't taken the time to see where that places Noah in the genealogies.  I'd like to submit a different idea for you to consider and all who read/study Noah's Flood.  Genesis 6:4 tells us the Nephilim survived the flood.  But the Nephilim were not people like Noah.  Nephilim were the offspring of angels and man by way of women.  So the Nephilim survived the flood, at least some of them.  We know from Peter 2:4 that the angels who had sex with human women.  They are not the Nephilim.  But their offspring are the Nephilim and their various descendants.  So how did they survive? 

1. Noah's Flood - was a regional flood, not a global flood.  That allowed some of the Nephilim to escape the regional flood.
2. What happens to the Nephilim when they die?  Someone wrote above that demons didn't appear until after Noah's Flood.  So since Nephilim can die, why didn't the flood kill all the Nephilim?
3. Because Noah's Flood was not global, but regional.

History shows large beings all over the Earth.  Large skeletons have been found, many hidden away by the Smithsonian Institute.  Every society around the world after Noah's Flood have evidence of giants in both their oral and written history.  This is an indisputable fact.