Speak it out

[kenny2212]

Maybe what happens is that some persons might hear the tongue in a language they understand though some other people might hear it as an unknown tongue. There is biblical precedence for this - John 12:27-30 - 

 “Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour. 28 Father, glorify your name!”

Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.

30 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine.

Some of the crowd said they heard thunder, some said an angel spoke to Jesus. But we know the tongue in which God spoke from what Jesus said - Verse 30 -  Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine." 

If the voice was for the people's benefit it makes sense that God would have spoken to them in a language they would understand.

What I'm trying to say is there's nothing God cannot do - A speaker might speak in a tongue and a hearer might hear one thing and the other another. This happened to Kenneth E. Hagin - He was so into the Spirit he couldn't speak in English, only in tongues. He spoke to an assistant in tongues and the assistant replied him in tongues. Hagin said he though heard him in English. Hagin also said he was sure the people heard the assistant in an "unknown tongue." So it could happen that the interpreter hears the tongue in a language he understands while other people hear an unknown tongue. Besides "Nothing is impossible with God" - Luke 1:37. 

But if you only hear the tongue as an unknown tongue, you would only be able to understand the "message" (not understanding the tongue word for word) the tongue is passing across through the word of knowledge. You wouldn't be able to interpret the tongue word for word if you don't understand the tongue.

Thank you for reading. God bless you.

Any questions or comments?

 

Edited November 2, 2020 by kenny2212

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, kenny2212 said:

Maybe what happens is that some persons might hear the tongue in a language they understand though some other people might hear it as an unknown tongue. There is biblical precedence for this - John 12:27-30 - 

 “Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour. 28 Father, glorify your name!”

Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.

30 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine.

Some of the crowd said they heard thunder, some said an angel spoke to Jesus. But we know the tongue in which God spoke from what Jesus said - Verse 30 -  Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine." 

If the voice was for the people's benefit it makes sense that God would have spoken to them in a language they would understand.

What I'm trying to say is there's nothing God cannot do - A speaker might speak in a tongue and a hearer might hear one thing and the other another. This happened to Kenneth E. Hagin - He was so into the Spirit he couldn't speak in English, only in tongues. He spoke to an assistant in tongues and the assistant replied him in tongues. Hagin said he though heard him in English. Hagin also said he was sure the people heard the assistant in an "unknown tongue." So it could happen that the interpreter hears the tongue in a language he understands while other people hear an unknown tongue. Besides "Nothing is impossible with God" - Luke 1:37

Thank you for reading. God bless you.

Any questions or comments?

 

It is 100% true that the Holy Spirit anoints people to speak in a language they have not learned but which is understood by someone who hears it. This has happened to me. Whilst on a day trip that included international tourists whom I had never met before, the Holy Spirit prompted me to address the group in a Scandinavian tongue which one of the tourists understood and as a result came forward to be first to board the vessel we were to sail on. She was a widow who had been born in Sweden and had lived in Denmark upon her marriage to a Danish man. We spent the rest of the day trip in each other's company.

[R. Hartono]

9 hours ago, kenny2212 said:

This happened to Kenneth E. Hagin - He was so into the Spirit he couldn't speak in English, only in tongues. He spoke to an assistant in tongues and the assistant replied him in tongues. Hagin said he though heard him in English. Hagin also said he was sure the people heard the assistant in an "unknown tongue." So it could happen that the interpreter hears the tongue in a language he understands while other people hear an unknown tongue. Besides "Nothing is impossible with God" - Luke 1:37. 

But if you only hear the tongue as an unknown tongue, you would only be able to understand the "message" (not understanding the tongue word for word) the tongue is passing across through the word of knowledge. You wouldn't be able to interpret the tongue word for word if you don't understand the tongue.

Thank you for reading. God bless you.

Any questions or comments?

 

Two people CANNOT communicate each other by both uttering Glosolalia like Haggin did with Kenneth Copeland, it was not Biblical n deceitful.

However Glosolalia can be interpreted if there is some one with the gift of interpreting Glosolalia.

[kenny2212]

5 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Two people CANNOT communicate each other by both uttering Glosolalia like Haggin did with Kenneth Copeland, it was not Biblical n deceitful.

However Glosolalia can be interpreted if there is some one with the gift of interpreting Glosolalia.

First off it's not Hagin and Copeland; it was Hagin and Frederick Price. Hagin shared of this experience in his book "Understanding the Anointing". What's Glosolalia? I hope it's not gibberish. Gibberish cannot be interpreted. I read about the experience in his book; who am I to say he's lying? Only God knows if he's lying or not. One should get all of his facts straight before passing judgement.

Edited November 2, 2020 by kenny2212

[R. Hartono]

1 minute ago, kenny2212 said:

Only God knows if he's lying or not. One should get all of his facts straight before passing judgement.

Glosolalia is speaking to God with unknown tongue,not mutual conversation between man like Haggin n Price. Its not Biblical.

[Michael37]

11 hours ago, kenny2212 said:

First off it's not Hagin and Copeland; it was Hagin and Frederick Price. Hagin shared of this experience in his book "Understanding the Anointing". What's Glosolalia? I hope it's not gibberish. Gibberish cannot be interpreted. I read about the experience in his book; who am I to say he's lying? Only God knows if he's lying or not. One should get all of his facts straight before passing judgement.

Hi kenny2212. This is a touchy subject. Even though the Bible says forbid not to speak in tongues many denominations do just that. I decided years ago not to get into arguments about it. Paul had to provide guidelines to maintain order. These days, even in Pentecostal assemblies, it is very rare for there to be a tongues message and interpretation in a public meeting. I know of many Christians who stir up the gift privately and communicate with God this way on a daily basis. Scientific studies have revealed that glossolalia releases endorphins, which as you may know are feel-good hormones. 

1Co 14:28  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the ekklesia; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

Strong G1100
γλῶσσα
glōssa
gloce'-sah
Of uncertain affinity; the tongue; by implication a language (specifically one naturally unacquired): - tongue.
Total KJV occurrences: 50

Health Benefits of Speaking in Tongues

 

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Submitted by Mark Virkler on March 19, 2014 - 09:34

“He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself” (1 Corinthians 14:4). Dr. Carl Peterson, M.D. conducted a study at ORU in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Being a brain specialist, he was doing research on the relationship between the brain and praying or speaking in tongues. He found that as we pray in the Spirit or worship in the Spirit (our heavenly language), the brain releases 2 chemical secretions that are directed into our immune systems giving a 35 to 40 percent boost to the immune system. This promotes healing within our bodies. Amazingly, this secretion is triggered from a part of the brain that has no other apparent activity in humans and is only activated by our Spirit-led prayer and worship!

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[kenny2212]

Thanks for the input, Michael37. Really appreciated.

[kenny2212]

On 11/2/2020 at 10:32 AM, R. Hartono said:

Glosolalia is speaking to God with unknown tongue,not mutual conversation between man like Haggin n Price. Its not Biblical.

I'm sure we both know that tongues is not only for communication between God and man. I mean we both right now are communicating in the English "tongue". But I'm sure you'll still find an objection. I give up!

[R. Hartono]

43 minutes ago, kenny2212 said:

I'm sure we both know that tongues is not only for communication between God and man. I mean we both right now are communicating in the English "tongue". But I'm sure you'll still find an objection. I give up!

Glosolalia is not inter human language, you need to study it be4 just believing what Haggins n Copeland or other's did.

[TheBlade]

Be careful Kenny when casting pearls. I know preachers that were praying in the spirit (tongues) and someone came up and said "do you know what you were saying?) So many times "you were praising God in my language". Yet to the preacher and everyone else .. they didn't understand. Still happens today and if we doubt.. the word is clear on that.

Thanks for sharing Kenny.