Certify the votes

[JohnD]

We find out just how hooked we have been on the doctrines and teaching and traditions of man (Mark 7:13 / Mark 7:7) or leaning on our own understanding (Proverbs 3:5-6) when we at long last allow God the Holy Spirit teach us the scriptures that he wrote (2 Peter 1:20-21).

In fact the Word of God tells us to know this first that no portion of the prophetic scriptures is of any other interpretation that that of Him who inspired the writing prophets to write them.

Even then we are so gullible by nature that we must test even the Holy Spirit (1 John 4:1) by the scriptures themselves (Acts 17:11) to be certain we are being taught by the Holy Spirit and not a false spirit or our own imaginations / desires.

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by JohnD

[NotAllThere]

On 11/7/2020 at 3:58 AM, JohnR7 said:

If a vote for elected officials is certified is that more of a crime then it would be if a counterfeit forgery vote is not certified? If this is the case then at what point does God certify His Word to hold us accountable?  In what court of law does God hold us to be accountable? 

I've no idea how to parse that question. I really don't understand. Can someone put it into simple British English? 

[JohnR7]

17 hours ago, NotAllThere said:

I've no idea how to parse that question. I really don't understand. Can someone put it into simple British English? 

I do not know British English, my wife does because she worked in Hong Kong for 9 years. But I will do what I can with the English I do know. 

I can name that tune in two notes. COURT & HEAVEN.  I follow the law of first use. In this case we are talking about Job 1:6 (NLV): "One day the members of the heavenly court came to present themselves before the LORD, and the Accuser, Satan, came with them". (The NLV is more of a commentary then a translation.)  

Now that we know the beginning, we can go to the end: Rev 12:10 "For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down".

What this has to do with Trump is that from the beginning he has been accused. Only they want to accuse Trump in a Earthly Court. So he is going to accept their challenger in the court system and we are waiting for the dust to settle to see who wins. This is a bit rigged because three of those nine judges were appointed by Trump. 

So the question has to do with Satan and how he accuses us before God. Only in the end we learn that Satan has been "hurled down". He is no longer able to accuse because of the Blood of Jesus and that Christ went to Calvary in our place. So the accuser was defeated at calvary. 

If you go to google or youtube you can run a search using the two words: Heaven & Court and you will find a lot you can study on this.  I use keywords so a dictionary goes a long way to explain what I am talking about when you learn the definition of the key words I am using in the conversation. 

 

[JohnR7]

20 hours ago, Chicken coop2 said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/few-legal-wins-far-trump-051614785.html

Yes, I believe as your article says: "there has been no conspiracy". We are dealing with strongholds that are actually independent of each other. These are corrupt political systems that lie, cheat & steal. We read in John 10:10 "The thief only comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly". 

Trump is working to expose these strongholds and he wants to tear them down. The biggest and the greatest is in the city of Philadelphia. This is where our government actually began and this was where they wrote the constitution. Only from the beginning the liberty bell has been cracked and does not ring as loud and as clear as it was intended to ring. Still we are talking about liberty and justice. Trump is trying to expose & defeat a corrupt political system that wants to take liberty and justice away from people.  A lot of people are skeptical that he will win. But a lot of people support Trump and they believe he is going to win this election. Not only win but expose the corrupt political machines and tear it apart so it can not ever be used again. 

This is what the Bible says: The Kingdoms of this world are going to become the Kingdom of God. When God is manifest in His people. 

When I was a kid they could announce a winner in three hours. Now it takes them three days. This is why we want a winner announced ON the day of election. The corrupt political machine is slow and we should not give them time to use it. 

[JohnR7]

On 11/12/2020 at 3:46 AM, JohnD said:

righteousness is imputed

We are to become righteous before God. He does not look at His creation with rose colored glasses. He sees us the way we are.  Jesus is coming for a bride that is without spot, blemish or wrinkle. (Eph 5:27)

[JohnD]

3 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

We are to become righteous before God. He does not look at His creation with rose colored glasses. He sees us the way we are.  Jesus is coming for a bride that is without spot, blemish or wrinkle. (Eph 5:27)

Because we have the righteousness of Christ imputed to our accounts.

2 Corinthians 5:21 (AV)
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

If you believe you can actually keep the Law of Moses then: 

James 2:10 (AV)
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

 

 

[JohnD]

There is a website here: Imputed righteousness

with 100 verses in the Bible about imputed righteousness.

If we are to go it alone (on our own) why so many verses to

testify that any righteousness we have is given to us... put into

our account?

[teddyv]

9 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

When I was a kid they could announce a winner in three hours. Now it takes them three days. This is why we want a winner announced ON the day of election. The corrupt political machine is slow and we should not give them time to use it. 

The last time there was any real length of time calling the presidential winner was between Gore and Bush. I don't recall days being needed on election night for Bush's second term, Obama's two terms, or even Trump's first term.  Might be misremembering though. 

[JohnR7]

9 hours ago, teddyv said:

The last time there was any real length of time calling the presidential winner was between Gore and Bush.

Neither one of them were able to do the job. So it did not really matter who was elected. Dick Cheney took all the oil money from Iraq. Bush could do nothing to help new orleans and the state of texas finally went in to help them. It was a mess.  Lots of American soldiers were injured so Cheney could stuff oil money in his pockets. Once they get a taste of blood there does not seem to be anything that will stop them. 

[JohnR7]

14 hours ago, JohnD said:

with 100 verses in the Bible about imputed righteousness.

Not one of them uses the word imputed. Esp the word imputed with righteousness. You can not add to the Bible, you can ONLY work with real words that we find in our Bible. Under the law righteousness was imputed to Abraham, but we are not under the law we are under Grace. Even the Grace of God is an active force that works in our life, just as we actually become right or righteous with God. 

I actually had a conversation with Paul himself about this very subject. Only he was answering a question I had when David talks about being good. Paul talks about being right with God. We can be good under the law but we can actually be right under Grace. Under the law righteousness is imputed. Under Grace we become righteous. We are transformed and we become a NEW Creation in Christ. 

Actually I am glad you asked because Paul just gave me a packet of understanding and you are helping me to unpack it.