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[irishcowboy]

Keith,

I can appreciate your thoughts.

I have been told by many i need to read this, or read that or other, so that i might be able to witness to those of Buhdism, Hinduism, J.W. , LDS, and so forth and so on......

all i need to do to witness to them is witness Christ. as far as knowing what is right or wrong, the Bible has it all.... if we bury our hearts in the Word of God, then when something comes up that is not of God, we know it beyond any doubt.

but

if we have other stuff in our minds, and our minds leak over into our hearts, then when something false comes up, we forget what is true and what is not....

I do not have to read the twisted words of the J.W. book to know when some one says something from it that it is false.....the same with LDS and others......

even with the TV preachers, they will be preaching, teaching, and the Lord will let me know when they are not teaching rightly.....

now, i am not talking about if a word is misplaced during a sermon, or teaching, i am talking about things that are in the Bible and not in the Bible....

i heard one preacher talking about the "angels" and that they really didnt have wings, only things that looked like wings ( as in a aircraft of some sort )....... come on now..... the Seraphine had six wings,two over its eyes, covering its feet and flying with two.... that dont sound like no aircraft to me.....

now, like I said, if some one misses a word, that is different..... a preacher was teaching on the power of the tongue, and he was talking about the cursing of the fig tree, and how it became barren.... the preacher got stuck for a second and said apple tree...... it bugged me for a bit, but the Lord told me that the type of tree was not the center of the point, but the center was the power and authority in which the words were spoken... the type of treee did not matter in this case... in another case it might have mattered, but what it did do was take me away from the sermon and i might have missed something...

satan got eve to twist only a small small piece of the Word of God....

we are able to eat of every tree in the Garden except this one ( tree of knowledge of good and evil ) and it we are not even to touch....... it sounds good, but turned a truth into a lie.... and with that lie, began the fall of man, and we have been falling ever since.

we just have to be careful about what we do allow in the Temple of God.....

whether it is just looking at something or hearing something or doing stuff... we do have to be careful, expecially to keep our wedding garments white as snow, keeping them white, cause those with out clean wedding garments will not be allowed to attend the Wedding feast.....

mike

[Gerioke]

Keith,

I can appreciate your thoughts.

I have been told by many i need to read this, or read that or other, so that i might be able to witness to those of Buhdism, Hinduism, J.W. , LDS, and so forth and so on......

all i need to do to witness to them is witness Christ.  as far as knowing what is right or wrong, the Bible has it all.... if we bury our hearts in the Word of God, then when something comes up that is not of God, we know it beyond any doubt.

but

if we have other stuff in our minds, and our minds leak over into our hearts, then when something false comes up, we forget what is true and what is not....

I do not have to read the twisted words of the J.W. book to know when some one says something from it that it is false.....the same with LDS and others......

even with the TV preachers,  they will be preaching, teaching, and the Lord will let me know when they are not  teaching rightly.....

now,  i am not talking about if a word is misplaced during a sermon, or teaching, i am talking about things that are in the Bible and not in the Bible....

i heard one preacher talking about the "angels" and that they really didnt have wings, only things that looked like wings ( as in a aircraft of some sort )....... come on now.....  the Seraphine had six wings,two over its eyes, covering its feet and flying with two.... that dont sound like no aircraft to me.....

now, like I said, if some one misses a word, that is different..... a preacher was teaching on the power of the tongue, and he was talking about the cursing of the fig tree, and how it became barren.... the preacher got stuck for a second and said apple tree...... it bugged me for a bit, but the Lord told me that the type of tree was not the center of the point, but the center was the power  and authority in which the words were spoken... the type of treee did not matter in this case... in another case it might have mattered, but what it did do was take me away from the sermon and i might have missed something...

satan got eve to twist only a small small piece of the Word of God....

we are able to eat of every tree in the Garden except this one ( tree of knowledge of good and evil ) and it we are not even to touch....... it sounds good, but turned a truth into a lie.... and with that lie, began the fall of man, and we have been falling ever since.

we just have to be careful about what we do allow in the Temple of God.....

whether it is just looking at something or hearing something or doing stuff... we do have to be careful, expecially to keep our wedding garments white as snow,  keeping them white, cause those with out clean wedding garments will not be allowed to attend the Wedding feast.....

mike

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So what you are saying is you don't watch movies? Or do you not like movies that elude to the idea that there is a christ. There are a lot of movies out there that don't acknowledge Chjrist. Are they your preference? There are even movies out there that elude to the idea that there is no christ. It's important to acknowledge entertainment as entertainment and use scripture to edify ones self.

[Guest iamsoblessed]

i dont fill my mind with just anything...i am very particular to what magazine, book or movie/tv show i will look at..in general i dont watch hollywood movies..i believe hollywood is against God and FOR sin..90%of tv is the same way..im apostolic penecostal and im totally against anything that contradicts what i believe..and that is that is the Jesus is the father,son and holy spirit and not in the form of a joshua...

[irishcowboy]

So what you are saying is you don't watch movies? Or do you not like movies that elude to the idea that there is a christ. There are a lot of movies out there that don't acknowledge Chjrist. Are they your preference? There are even movies out there that elude to the idea that there is no christ.   It's important to acknowledge entertainment as entertainment and use scripture to edify ones self.

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now it looks as thou you are trying to twist what is being ment by the post. for the most part, i do not watch movies, unless i know how they stand. even movies i use to watch in the 40's, 50's and 60's come under question and are scrutinized for language, content, violence and truth. not to mention those of the 70's, 80's and 90's and even this decade. if i am watching a televission show, even the commercials are scrutinized for content, jeans, burgers, cars and even soda commercials.... i have stopped buying products because of their adds.... ( Mt. Dew use to be one of my favorites, now it is not even on the list )....

I find just as much if not more entertainment in the Worship of The Lord God then i do in a movie.... and a whole lot more fulfilling....

does this mean i am any better then anyone else? no, not at all, just that this is the path i am to take.....

mike

[Gerioke]

So what you are saying is you don't watch movies? Or do you not like movies that elude to the idea that there is a christ. There are a lot of movies out there that don't acknowledge Chjrist. Are they your preference? There are even movies out there that elude to the idea that there is no christ.

[Keith]

Mike,

I see where you are coming from and can respect that. I think it's just that we are two different people. I cut off my television a year ago because I didn't like the majority of the content anymore. Now I use NetFlix so I can monitor what I watch.

I do the very best I can, but I don't think it's possible to eliminate the world's influences 100% from our lives. We do live here. We are to be in the world, not of the world... but not shut out the world and ignore it either. How can a person monitor commercials? If you watch it and decide that you don't like it, you've already seen it. If you are watching a TV show that you find acceptable, what do you do when the commercials come on? Turn off the tv until they're over? Isn't that a lot of effort just to watch a show? If a person finds this much objection to TV shows, they should just turn the whole thing off for good instead of trying to weed out the 5% that's watchable, turning the commercials off while watching the shows they like. Why pay for 100% of the channels when you only watch a few? Is that good stewardship? If you want to be as careful as you say you are, then you would just not watch television period. You wouldn't go to newly released movies.

To be honest, I don't think your last post had much of anything to do with the Joshua book. (It was more about how you guard your choices of entertainment, of which I'm in agreement with for the most part.) In no way is this book as dangerous or false as that. I could accept your opinion, no matter what it was, if you had read the book. But to deem a book as false teaching and leading people into sin without knowing anything about the book (except what a few people you don't know casually mention on a message board) does not make it so.

Nobody said this book needed to be read to witness to JW or Mormon's. It doesn't need to be read to be able to do anything. The book is meant to be enjoyed and to inspire people to walk in love.

I respect the path you have chosen to take. I really do. More people need to be more concerned about their entertainment choices. I just don't believe that reading the Joshua book is damaging to anyone's walk. Whoever thinks it does, simply has not read the book or is completely turned off by the fact that it was written by a retired RCC priest. Neither are valid reasons, in my opinion, to say this book is false and dangerous.

People who think everything Catholic is wrong should look closely at their own heart and attitude and see where pride and even hate are hiding. (I'm not saying this because I think this is your reason, Mike. There are others that read our posts, too.) I am not Catholic but there has been more than enough Catholic-bashing on these boards that's been rooted in hatred and anger.

[Keith]

i dont fill my mind with just anything...i am very particular to what magazine, book or movie/tv show i will look at..in general i dont watch hollywood movies..i believe hollywood is against God and FOR sin..90%of tv is the same way..im apostolic penecostal and im totally against anything that contradicts what i believe..and that is that is the Jesus is the father,son and holy spirit and not in the form of a joshua...

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May I ask what TV shows you deem acceptable? What about the commercials between those shows? If 90% of TV shows are unacceptable (which I would agree with you. Even up to 95%) then why have TV in your house at all? If you are THAT careful that you won't read a book like Joshua but yet you have a TV that's filled with 90% garbage but yet have in your house... it doesn't make sense to me. If TV is filled with that much garbage and perversion - including the commercials during the shows that are acceptable - shouldn't someone so careful turn their tv off for good? I'm not saying I'm better than anyone else by far, but I am also very careful about what I let entertain and affect me. I DID turn my tv off completely just over a year ago. The Joshua book is just fine.

You obviously haven't read the Joshua book. It's fiction, meant to entertain and inspire. It does exactly that. It's not trying to replace the Bible. It's not trying to say anyone else is Jesus. It may not be 100% accurate, but what book is? Not even our churches are. Only the Bible is. Do you throw the baby out with the bathwater and read only your Bible and nothing else? Nothing here is perfect. Your TV shows are surely not.

Nobody is as careful as all that, (having only Godly influences in their lives,) and yet replies to a thread like this where your post comes across as angry. Godly influences in our lives - especially if that's all you have coming into your house - would have caused a different type of response.

Without reading this kind of book, a person can NOT give a valid review of it and call it false teaching. They don't know what's in it so how can they? They are going by what they hear others say. That can only be done with books about known Godless content. You haven't mentioned any other sources where you're getting your information so it seems you are basing your information off of the three or four other people's responses to the original post.

So, forgive me if I don't find any validity in your short, terse responses.

[O'Dannyboy]

I saw this movie not too long ago. I do not recall Joshua kneeling before the pope. I recall the pope becomming angered with Joshua and tempted to strike him I believe. It was at this point that Joshua put his hand to the popes chest and melted the ice around his (the popes) heart. The pope did then weep sorely at knowing who the man before him truely was after all his denial. The pope later asked Joshua (Christ) what he would have him do and Joshua said "lead my sheep".

I did enjoy the movie alot and thought it really struck home. Please do not listen to the nay-sayers in regards to this movie. Watch it for yourself. The movie itself is flawwed inevitably but is made in good will.

Just a note: the movie is based in/around a Catholic church/community. For those who adhere to dissimilar doctrine it is likely to rub them the wrong way a couple times.

[Guest iamsoblessed]

actually i watch 700 club..homecooking with paula ..jeff corwin experience..paula white,without walls..i do not watch the news..or sitcoms or music television or reality shows or commercial..i tune into trinity broadcasting a few times a week..i also like rebeccas garden...im one of the few members of a large congregation at my church that has a tv...but i believe i read the word way more than alot of them do and i dont feel guilty about the shows i tune into..there is no guilt..

[Gerioke]

I hate it when you bring home a family or kid's movie and the previews come up and there's all this sex and demonic themes in the previews. Why don't they put family previews on family movies, and all other perversions on the perverse movies?