Genesis 2:8

[Your closest friendnt]

Just now, clancy said:

He came Alive, when God breathed into his nostrils?

Do you mean that?

The scriptures do not support the idea that God breath into the form of a man of clay, please read it careful, but rather that he breath into his nostrils...

Strongly suggesting that Adam was alive and breathing and awake and he was witnessing that God breath into him, and God made him to understand something, if not that time but some time later. 

[Guest clancy]

8 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The scriptures do not support the idea that God breath into the form of a man of clay, please read it careful, but rather that he breath into his nostrils...

Strongly suggesting that Adam was alive and breathing and awake and he was witnessing that God breath into him, and God made him to understand something, if not that time but some time later. 

Genesis 2:7

 

The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.

That to me is saying he wasn’t alive until God breathed into his nostrils.

God had already formed him from dust, he then breathed His life into him.

God can do anything he chooses.

Edited March 6, 2021 by clancy

[Your closest friendnt]

27 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Wrong. 

Numbers 23:19
"God is not a man, that He should lie..."

Titus 1:1-2
"Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness,  in the hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie..." 

Hebrews 6:17-18
"In the same way God, desiring even more to show to the heirs of the promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, interposed with an oath,  so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie..."

Psalm 145:17 KJV
"The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." 

Proverbs 6:16-19
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:  a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,  an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,  a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

God made Lucifer, the morning star. He did not make satan. Lucifer rebelled and became enslaved to sin and thereby the adversary, the father of lies. You just quoted one of the verses that proves this. Here's another:

Isaiah 14:12
"How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!"

Your view has the righteous God acting unrighteously, the Law Maker acting lawlessly, and the perfect God who is righteous in all His ways acting in a manner He Himself states He hates. It is in fact a serious problem scripturally, rationally, theologically, and practically. A god who himself makes liars cannot be relied upon; we could never trust anything that god "inspired" another to teach in his word. That god's word would be suspect. 

 

 

Print up my post and take it to your pastor and ask him about it. He will explain to how and where the quoted statements are incorrect.

 

Please Joseb , it would be ethical to quote the whole post for looking into the context, if not you can be accused in the minds of people sympathetic to Frits that you are letting others know your thoughts about Frits, and if you want to point out a typo, or glitch of syntax or something miscontrue, that will be ok.

For the totality of Frits post, Frits can support this claim.

It must be inadvertantly typed like that. 

Next time asked if he means it or it's mistakenly out like that.

[Your closest friendnt]

5 minutes ago, clancy said:

Genesis 2:7

 

The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.

That to me is saying he wasn’t alive until God breathed into his nostrils.

God had already formed him from dust, he then breathed His life into him.

God can do anything he chooses.

Man became a living soul. 

 

[Guest clancy]

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Man became a living soul. 

 

When God breathed His life into his nostrils... 

Adam was the creation of God....

Edited March 6, 2021 by clancy

[Your closest friendnt]

7 minutes ago, clancy said:

Genesis 2:7

 

The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.

That to me is saying he wasn’t alive until God breathed into his nostrils.

God had already formed him from dust, he then breathed His life into him.

God can do anything he chooses.

You are familiar that God made other (let's use the word "mammals", without breathing into them, that were alive and multiplying. 

Have you considered that? Is it excluded from the same thing happened to Adam, and we are told that God breath into him and he was made into a living soul as to make the distinction between man and the other mammals. 

[Guest clancy]

7 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You are familiar that God made other (let's use the word "mammals", without breathing into them, that were alive and multiplying. 

Have you considered that? Is it excluded from the same thing happened to Adam, and we are told that God breath into him and he was made into a living soul as to make the distinction between man and the other mammals. 

God said.Let the water team with living creatures.

i don’t think about it....because  God “said it” therefore His Word...

Edited March 6, 2021 by clancy

[Your closest friendnt]

14 minutes ago, clancy said:

Genesis 2:7

 

God can do anything he chooses.

This statement could be use to support what I posted but this is not what I am using to support my post on.

"This statement must never be used.

God acts with a preordained plan from before the creation of the world.

"And he does what he wants is not one of them ". 

[Frits]

5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

The 'angel of the Lord' in the OT is the preincarnate Yeshua and can be seen in many places in the Tanakh. The Hebrews saw that and had a theology based on 'two powers in heaven.' That did not violate the Shema. After the first century the rabbis declared it a heresy because the Christians would point to it. It was YHWH's preparation for the Son who would be born of a woman. Look up 'monogenes'. It does not mean 'only begotten', it means Only Unique One. Old translations get that wrong.

 

Hi Justin,
Nice to receive your response.
The angel of the Lord does indeed occur in various places in the OT, such as in Gen.22:11-12, where the angel of the Lord calls to Abraham, 'Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him'.

The angel of the Lords acts in the authority of the Most High and with power to perform His Word.

Ps.103: 20 KJV
Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

But no angel of God ever gave up his place in heaven, to be transformed into the Lord Jesus! 
This error among others, is proclaimed by the JW!
No, the Most High never chooses an angel as Partner as His Woman to dwell therein, but He only chooses man Jezus and His body the Church, to be His abode.

Heb 1:5 KJV
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Not an angel became flesh, but God's Word God Himself became flesh, in Jesus Christ.

Hence the Greek word
"monogenēs" is entirely appropriate here, because it expresses the uniqueness of the Lord Jesus.
Jesus Christ was not an angel but He was as the Word of God with God, and He was God. (Jh.1:1)
The man Jesus Christ was also not created as Adam was created.
But God came by birth in the flesh, and became man.  Jesus became a man with a body of flesh and blood, just as we have.
From His conception, however, He was born as the only human being directly from "above" of God the Father, while we who love Him and belong to His Body, are as adults through our "rebirth" of God.
So in this respect, the Lord Jesus is the only One of His kind, He is a Son of God by birth, and we become that after our new birth.

God bless you.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 minute ago, clancy said:

God said.Let the water team with living creatures.

i don’t think about it....because  God “said it” therefore His Word...

There is nothing strange about that, we know that there is fish that live only in water.

This we can understand by observation, if we take the fish out of the water they will die.