Let's get down to it, the Nitty Gritty

[Catsmeow]

No. I will not read the WHOLE thing. You're a bit like the "energizer bunny" and it takes way too long...

Since this is a message board where people converse rather than post extremely lengthy discourses...I will refrain from reading all of what you write.

I quoted you very specifically about one thing you said. That spoke volumes.

[ayin jade]

Rom 14:1

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YOU GUYS CARE MORE ABOUT THE MISTAKES OR WHAT YOU THINK IS A MISTAKE INSTEAD OF WHAT GOD SAYS.

THE MAIN QUESTION IS STILL DOES GOD MAKE MISTAKES?

YES OR NO?

IR YOU SAY THAT GOD CHANGED THE DAY TO BE HOLY THEN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND SAY THAT GOD MAKES MISTAKES.

IF YOU SAY NO THEN YOU FOLLOW THE 4TH COMMANDMENT.

IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND REPLIES FIRST EXPLAIN LEVITICUS 23!

THE WHOLE CHAPTER AND ALL THE DIFFERENT FEAST'S AND HOLY CONVOCATIONS OR DIFFERENT SABBATHS.

WHY? BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SABBATHS THAT PAUL SPOKE ABOUT

SHOW ME AND EXPLAIN PLEASE

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QUOTE(Zayit @ Aug 8 2005, 05:56 AM)

QUOTE(Ayin Jade @ Aug 8 2005, 07:29 AM)

Rom 14:1  And receive him who is weak in the faith, but not to judgments of your thoughts.

Rom 14:5  One indeed esteems a day above another day; and another esteems every day alike. Let each one be fully assured in his own mind.

Rom 14:6  He who regards the day regards it to the Lord; and he not regarding the day, does not regard it to the Lord. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, does not eat to the Lord, and gives God thanks.

Col 2:16  Therefore let no one judge you in food or in drink, or in respect of a feast, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths.

Y'all seem to be forgetting this important thing. Let no one judge you for it. So would y'all please quit condemning people because they do not believe as you do.

No one is condemning Ayin Jade, is this your reason for not keeping the holy Sabbath because you think Paul was telling the Romans and Colossians that they shouldn't?

I have not once mentioned how or what day I worship. Yet you have assumed that I must worship on Sunday because of my answer.

NO ONE WAS TALKING TO YOU OR ASSUMING WHAT DAY YOU WORSHIP ON,

[Guest Blessed by Association]

No. I will not read the WHOLE thing. You're a bit like the "energizer bunny" and it takes way too long...

Since this is a message board where people converse rather than post extremely lengthy discourses...I will refrain from reading all of what you write.

I quoted you very specifically about one thing you said. That spoke volumes.

OF COURSE NOT

YOU WILL NOT READ THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF

[Guest Blessed by Association]

http://www.newadvent.org/

THE SABBATH

The Sabbath was a day of rest "sanctified to the Lord"

"See that thou keep my sabbath; because it is a sign between me and you in your generations; that you may know that I am the Lord, who sanctify you" (Ex., xxxi, 13).

Furthermore, a religious calendar of the intercalary month Elul and of the month Marchesvan mentions the 7th, 14th, 21st, 28th, and 19th days, the latter probably because it was the 49th (7x7) day from the beginning of the preceding month, as days on which the king, the magician, and the physician were to abstain from certain acts. The king, for instance, was not to eat food prepared with fire, put on bright garments, ride in a chariot, or exercise acts of authority. These days were then, days of propitiation , and therefore shabattu days.

Christ, while observing the Sabbath, set himself in word and act against this absurd rigorism which made man a slave of the day. He reproved the scribes and Pharisees for putting an intolerable burden on men's shoulders (Matt., xxiii, 4), and proclaimed the principle that "the sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" (Mark, ii, 27). He cured on the Sabbath, and defended His disciples for plucking ears of corn on that day. In His arguments with the Pharisees on this account He showed that the Sabbath is not broken in cases of necessity or by acts of charity (Matt., xii, 3 sqq.; Mark, ii, 25 sqq.; Luke, vi, 3 sqq.; xiv, 5). St. Paul enumerates the Sabbath among the Jewish observances which are not obligatory on Christians (Col., ii, 16; Gal., iv, 9-10; Rom., xiv, 5). The gentile converts held their religious meetings on Sunday (Acts, xx, 7; 1 Cor., xvi, 2) and with the disappearance of the Jewish Christian churches this day was exclusively observed as the Lord's Day.

Edited August 8, 2005 by Blessed by Association

[Catsmeow]

With all respect, I might suggest you post your position on the "soapbox" forum, where one is expected to post lengthy discourses.

That's an appropriate place to do so rather than here.

This particular forum offers the opportunity for all to participate in conversational discussion.

If you prefer to share your position from the pulpit, "Soapbox" forum would be rightly suited.

Respectfully,

YSIC

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[From New Advent]

SUNDAY

Sunday was the first day of the week according to the Jewish method of reckoning, but for Christians it began to take the place of the Jewish Sabbath in Apostolic times as the day set apart for the public and solemn worship of God. The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts, xx 7; I Cor., xvi, 2; in Apoc., i, 10, it is called the Lord's day. In the Didache (xiv) the injunction is given: "On the Lord's Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure". St. Ignatius (Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as "no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also Our Life rose again". In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: "Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i. e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead".

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

the holy Doctors of the Church had decreed that the whole glory of the Jewish Sabbath had been transferred to the Sunday, and that Christians must keep the Sunday holy in the same way as the Jews had been commanded to keep holy the Sabbath Day.

There is a large body of civil legislation on the Sunday rest side by side with the ecclesiastical. It begins with an Edict of Constantine, the first Christian emperor, who forbade judges to sit and townspeople to work on Sunday.

[Guest Blessed by Association]

With all respect, I might suggest you post your position on the "soapbox" forum, where one is expected to post lengthy discourses.

That's an appropriate place to do so rather than here.

This particular forum offers the opportunity for all to participate in conversational discussion.

If you prefer to share your position from the pulpit, "Soapbox" forum would be rightly suited.

Respectfully,

YSIC

IF THE TRUTH WAS SHORT AND SIMPLE THEN WE WOULD ALL BE FOLLOWING THE SAME LAWS AND WORSHIPING ON THE SAME DAY AND WOULD ALL BE IN ACCORDANCE AND THEREFORE THE "SOAPBOX" FORUM WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE HERE

AGREE WITH ME

[Ovedya]

YOU GUYS CARE MORE ABOUT THE MISTAKES OR WHAT YOU THINK IS A MISTAKE INSTEAD OF WHAT GOD SAYS.

THE MAIN QUESTION IS STILL DOES GOD MAKE MISTAKES?

YES OR NO?

IR YOU SAY THAT GOD CHANGED THE DAY TO BE HOLY THEN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND SAY THAT GOD MAKES MISTAKES.

IF YOU SAY NO THEN YOU FOLLOW THE 4TH COMMANDMENT.

IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND REPLIES FIRST EXPLAIN LEVITICUS 23!

THE WHOLE CHAPTER AND ALL THE DIFFERENT FEAST'S AND HOLY CONVOCATIONS OR DIFFERENT SABBATHS.

WHY? BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SABBATHS THAT PAUL SPOKE ABOUT

SHOW ME AND EXPLAIN PLEASE

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BBA, please do me a favor:

Please refrain from posting in ALL CAPS. It is considered shouting in public forums. You can get your point across a little more clearly and effectively if you refrain from shouting.

Thanks