What do you Believe

[Marnie]

Just a thought. The purpose for the Tribulation is to bring the Jews back the G-d. There is no purpose for the chuch to go through it. The clearest and most obvious thought for a pre trip rapture is that in Revelation, the word "church" is found many times in the first four chapters, then is nowhere to be found for most the rest of the book, which describes the world during the Trib. So I would conclude that the church isnt mentioned because she is not here!

Also, while it is a popular thing to talk of cleansing and purifying the church as the bride of Christ, technically, the church is not the bride of Christ, the New Jerusalem is. The church, while being far from perfect, is already "perfect" in G-d's eyes for she has been washed in Christ's blood. Obviously G-d is not blind and knows how corrupt she is, the fact is, Christ's work is a perfect work, even though the church is not.

[VRSpock]

Just a thought. The purpose for the Tribulation is to bring the Jews back the G-d. There is no purpose for the chuch to go through it. The clearest and most obvious thought for a pre trip rapture is that in Revelation, the word "church" is found many times in the first four chapters, then is nowhere to be found for most the rest of the book, which describes the world during the Trib. So I would conclude that the church isnt mentioned because she is not here!

Also, while it is a popular thing to talk of cleansing and purifying the church as the bride of Christ, technically, the church is not the bride of Christ, the New Jerusalem is. The church, while being far from perfect, is already "perfect" in G-d's eyes for she has been washed in Christ's blood. Obviously G-d is not blind and knows how corrupt she is, the fact is, Christ's work is a perfect work, even though the church is not.

I'd have to agree with that.

[Guest haniford]

hello,

I have been fascinated with the rapture for many years now. Recently I have been reading more and more on the subject. The more I read it seems the less I believe it will actually happen. I recently came across this site the rapture rebuttal and many of the things I found there I just could not answer. This has certainly caused me to rethink my beliefs. I am not saying for sure there will not be a rapture but until I can find valid answers for the questions the site raised I have to lean toward a no rapture tribulation. Anyway I think we should be prepared either way.

[PreciousPuppy]

I didn't know much about the "rapture" until my brother was talking about it, and it seemed to me not to sound right.

So, one day I was watching Shepherds Chapel on tv and Pastor Murray was teaching about it and he said that he had a recorded tape about the subject.

So, I bought the tape and it explains where in the bible to go to back up everything that he says about the second coming of Jesus.

I am So glad that I understand about the truth behind the so called "rapture."

[Mikeyjay]

i believe in the 2nd comeing of Jesus and in the rapture !!!

i believe also that we should focus not on the end times but to stive for His work as though it is tomorrow but in the same case we should also focus on a vission as though it will never happen...so we are not just caught up in waiting for His return...there is so so much of His work that needs doing before His return and we will never know when that is until He does return in all His Glory...Amen

[PreciousPuppy]

No matter how and what we believe, one thing to remember is just be ready.

[IslandRose]

I didn't know much about the "rapture" until my brother was talking about it, and it seemed to me not to sound right.

So, one day I was watching Shepherds Chapel on tv and Pastor Murray was teaching about it and he said that he had a recorded tape about the subject.

So, I bought the tape and it explains where in the bible to go to back up everything that he says about the second coming of Jesus.

I am So glad that I understand about the truth behind the so called "rapture."

Oh my, Precious. You must watch out for Pastor Murray and the Shepherd's Chapel. I'm sorry but that man teaches heresy. I don't know how far you are into his teachings , but I can give you information about them that will show you just how far wrong he has gone.

This site (click here) is a wonderful Christian Apologetics site that has some information on Shepherds Chapel.

IR

[Mikeyjay]

wow IR i am totaly shock by what i read and heard on this site...i can't believe that this man is not in jail !!! i pray for this man and his followers !!!

[Jan S]

So, do I believe in the rapture, yes I do. And when He toots, I'm going to scoot!!

Pipit

I have never heard that - That is Hilarious!!!!

I believe as the Bible says:

1 Thessalonians 4

15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

[PreciousPuppy]

I didn't know much about the "rapture" until my brother was talking about it, and it seemed to me not to sound right.

So, one day I was watching Shepherds Chapel on tv and Pastor Murray was teaching about it and he said that he had a recorded tape about the subject.

So, I bought the tape and it explains where in the bible to go to back up everything that he says about the second coming of Jesus.

I am So glad that I understand about the truth behind the so called "rapture."

Oh my, Precious. You must watch out for Pastor Murray and the Shepherd's Chapel. I'm sorry but that man teaches heresy. I don't know how far you are into his teachings , but I can give you information about them that will show you just how far wrong he has gone.

This site (click here) is a wonderful Christian Apologetics site that has some information on Shepherds Chapel.

IR

Rose, I am very aware of that site and know all about it.

But, I am still and will be a student of Pastor Murray.