Daniel 2, 7 and 8 - Identifying the 3 actors

[Charlie744]

15 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hi WilliamL,

Sounds like you're a history buff like myself. Without going into all the details of history, Alexander's four generals, the eastern and western legs of the Roman empire, the continuance of the empire through the church-state Roman Catholic Church, the Ottoman empire etc. 

It's interesting to note, putting an overlay of the old Roman empire at its zenith, over a modern day map of today; 2/3 of that area is now Islamic nations. 

With this Pope Francis and his successful ecumenical movement, signing letters of agreement with the Muslim's, and bringing back the "protesters" under the umbrella of the one true church. That every religion worships the same god, only by a different name...

I find this very interesting prophetically. Iron and miry clay doesn't mix, it's partially strong and partially weak. The RCC has about 1.4 billion adherents, Islam has about 1.2 billion adherents. That seems to me to be pretty strong. The two major factions of Islam (Shia - Sunni) hate each other and are constantly at war killing each other [weak]. There's great turmoil and infighting within the RCC with what this Francis is saying and doing. 

I just find the aforementioned interesting relating to prophetic scripture in Daniel, Revelation and elsewhere. I'm not suggesting anything, but just watching as things and events unfold. You have any thoughts?

Great stuff! My interpretation of Daniel 8 through 11 and especially 11, is the battle is for mankind's salvation... That is what the Messiah came to provide. There will ALWAYS be wars and rumors of wars, and this will continue until the end of time... nothing new since the beginning and there is nothing in 11 that speaks to identifying any combatants..... RCC or Christians v Islam or Russia or China v US, etc. There are only two to consider in 11, those that go against God and His Plan and those that obey Him and will have to endure those like the little horn and those that are only concerned with worldly interests.  

On the religious side (and I don't really like using that word), from HIS point of view, it doesn't matter if one is an atheist, a Buddhist, a Muslim or New Age, etc., they are all in conflict with the One True God.  On the secular level, God is not concerned or interested in whether we are Americans, Chinese, Muslims, Jew or Greek; if anyone is of the world they are not with Christ. 

People, countries, religions, governments, and so on are of no concern for God.... He had come for ALL and ANYONE who believes in Him. That is the battle of conflict for the last 2,000 years and is prophesied in Daniel 11..... but most have continued to interpret 11 right beside our history books. 

Once again, just my thoughts, Charlie