Are Fossils evidence of evolution ....or are the evidence of fossils

[The Barbarian]

They broke apart hundred of millions of years before there were humans. 

4 hours ago, Sparks said:

I suppose you have a satellite photo of that event?

Let's see...

fossils of land-based animals, sections of mountain ranges, and deposits of minerals now widely separated on different continents.
 

mid-oceanic ridges, where new crust is being made, moving continents apart by measurable rates.  (which we can use to determine how long it's been moving apart)

Oh, and the continental shelves of continents all fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.   

[JohnR7]

On 4/10/2021 at 2:42 PM, Riverwalker said:

That is HIS Wisdom and HIS  Understanding

Yes of course we are to have the Mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. We do not trust in man and his understanding. I was in a church he preached 160 sermons on what it means to have the mind of Christ. To have understanding means to have the Mind of Christ. I still have the notes on that. I should go over them sometime. 

[JohnR7]

On 4/8/2021 at 1:23 PM, kingdombrat said:

So where are the pictures for Lucy at?

The “real” Lucy is stored in a specially constructed safe in the Paleoanthropology Laboratories of the National Museum of Ethiopia in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

[Sparks]

17 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

They broke apart hundred of millions of years before there were humans. 

Let's see...

fossils of land-based animals, sections of mountain ranges, and deposits of minerals now widely separated on different continents.
 

mid-oceanic ridges, where new crust is being made, moving continents apart by measurable rates.  (which we can use to determine how long it's been moving apart)

Oh, and the continental shelves of continents all fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.   

These are very pretty drawings of theory.  What we need is evidence, so if you don't own a time machine, or a satellite photo from before the flood, I don't think you will be able to make your case.  But you get an A for effort, in the theory department.

[Sparks]

18 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Explaining scripture to atheists is kind of like explaining science to creationists.   

You make it sound like Creationists don't believe in science.  First, science is not a belief, but a tool.  Secondly, we just like to remind evolutionist that their theory is safely a theory because the tool known as science cannot help them produce evidence.

18 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Pity.   I was wondering if you had any scriptural basis for your belief. 

I showed you the scripture, and it's not my belief, it's the atheists belief.

18 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

The two verses you cited, seem to say the same things.

Exactly, and it made my point.  I have to wonder if you even understand what you are debating.

[The Barbarian]

Explaining scripture to atheists is kind of like explaining science to creationists.   

33 minutes ago, Sparks said:

You make it sound like Creationists don't believe in science. 

Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it?   Genetics, information, geology, physics, all offensive to  most creationists.

34 minutes ago, Sparks said:

First, science is not a belief, but a tool. 

No, it's a discipline.   Tools are things science uses.   Like math.  

35 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Secondly, we just like to remind evolutionist that their theory is safely a theory because the tool known as science cannot help them produce evidence.

It's a theory because it's a group of ideas that has been repeatedly verified by evidence.    That's what a theory is.   And therein lies another problem; most creationists don't know what "theory" means.

In your assumption that God made two sets of animals.   Nothing in scripture says so.

Scripture says so.

Nope.   No such statement.   But I'd be interested in hearing why you think so. 

(Declines to say)

Pity.   I was wondering if you had any scriptural basis for your belief. 

[The Barbarian]

Two verses describe the same event:

41 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Exactly, and it made my point.  

I thought you were trying to make them out to be two different events.   I have to wonder if you even understand what you are debating.

 

 

 

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[The Barbarian]

47 minutes ago, Sparks said:

These are very pretty drawings of theory. 

No, that's wrong, too.   They show the evidence that scientists have found there.    And no, "they are lying, all of them are lying!" is not an argument.   If you you'd like to challenge any of that, name one thing, and we'll look at the details.   

49 minutes ago, Sparks said:

What we need is evidence, so if you don't own a time machine, or a satellite photo from before the flood, I don't think you will be able to make your case.

Sorry,but the excuse that you think we can't know about anything we didn't actually see happen, is so transparent, I'm surprised anyone still uses it.

The same argument could be made to deny Christ.  

 

[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

You make it sound like Creationists don't believe in science.

Young Earth Creationists tend to "believe in" only the science that supports their presuppositions. Most have very little understanding of the science they reject. This thread is solid evidence supporting that observation.

[Guest kingdombrat]

20 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Wise believes in a YE and rejects common descent of all organisms on Earth.    He's just honest enough to admit that there is very good evidence for macroevolutionary theory.

I believe in a Earth much [younger] than 4.5 billion years old because I do not believe in the [Big Bang] that HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO HAVE HAPPENED.

 

But, I am more convinced the Hebrew Peoples understand their Ancient Hebrew Alphabet better than modern Theists/Scholars/Teachers/Preachers.   And the Torah provides more [Clarity] than the Translation from Latin Vulgate to English within the KJV.

 

And I've always claimed, Evolution can and is only taking placing in the Microbe Kingdom.   It's the [DUST] which God Molded our Forms with.   [Dust] with an assortment of Trillions of Microbes and Bacteria.