Are Fossils evidence of evolution ....or are the evidence of fossils

[one.opinion]

35 minutes ago, Sparks said:

I like to joke and say that I have 62 PhDs, and that one is in pizza-ology, because the claims of all my degrees cannot be proven out here, and so I don't fall for the Appeal to Authority fallacy. 

Just letting you know that I don't need lessons in Genetics.

If you want to appeal to your interpretation of Genesis 1-2 to shape your opinion of natural history, that's fine. You just can't claim that the scientific evidence supports that view.

[Sparks]

Just now, one.opinion said:

Just letting you know that I don't need lessons in Genetics.

If you want to appeal to your interpretation of Genesis 1-2 to shape your opinion of natural history, that's fine. You just can't claim that the scientific evidence supports that view.

I claim there is no scientific evidence AT ALL for Darwinian Evolution. 

As a reminder, so far, you have provided none.

[one.opinion]

5 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

creation has many different designs it’s amazing

Absolutely! We may disagree about what God did to bring it all here, but His creation is wonderful, intricate, and beautiful. It tells me a lot about Him and His character!

[one.opinion]

Just now, Sparks said:

As a reminder, so far, you have provided none.

You already have your mind made up. It wouldn't matter one iota how much evidence I showed and explained.

[Sparks]

39 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

You already have your mind made up. It wouldn't matter one iota how much evidence I showed and explained.

Untrue.  I am open minded.  If you showed me actual evidence that did not add up to simple speculation, I am sure I would 'see the light,' but so far you simply sing the praises of the people in the field.  It's all short on evidence.   But I will say, no amount of praise for the field or credentials impresses me.

If I asked you to tell me how computers came into existence, but I would not allow you to reference their human creators, I bet you would have to resort to the 'millions of years' talk.  "The first mnemonic memory circuit crawled out of primordial silicon soup, millions of years ago!" 

Don't you recognize that same talk in colleges and universities, all over the world, because they must comply with the ideas, or be cast out of their field?  There was a documentary made about this called Expelled:  No Intelligence Allowed (referring to intelligent design). 

Anyway, thanks for the chat.  I think we are probably hijacking the thread.

[BeyondET]

42 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Absolutely! We may disagree about what God did to bring it all here, but His creation is wonderful, intricate, and beautiful. It tells me a lot about Him and His character!

You may find that I don’t really disagree with a lot of things you have mentioned you have made some compelling comments that I enjoyed reading. I always enjoy reading, hearing, debating and learning etc. with others who are like minded as in a Creator of creation and not a random chance debating that is quite difficult at times ?  

Edited April 16, 2021 by BeyondET

[one.opinion]

42 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Untrue.  I am open minded.

I'm quite skeptical regarding your open-mindedness on this issue. I'm not yet willing to invest any significant amount of time explaining the evidence, but I'll happily take advantage of a summary that has already been written. If you want to prove you have an open mind, check out the following link and let me know what you think:

https://letterstocreationists.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/endogenous-retroviruses-in-your-genome-show-common-ancestry-with-primates/

If you want a quick summary, there are tens of thousands of complete and partial copies of retrovirus genomes that are easily identified in various genomes. Remarkably, over 99% are shared in position between human and chimpanzee genomes. What this tells us is that either tens of thousands of these sequences inserted into the exact same position independently, or that insertions occurred in a common ancestor, and we now share these inserted sequences.

56 minutes ago, Sparks said:

I think we are probably hijacking the thread.

The thread is over 50 pages, I think a few replies today won't make much of a difference.

[Sparks]

13 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

If you want a quick summary, there are tens of thousands of complete and partial copies of retrovirus genomes that are easily identified in various genomes. Remarkably, over 99% are shared in position between human and chimpanzee genomes. What this tells us is that either tens of thousands of these sequences inserted into the exact same position independently, or that insertions occurred in a common ancestor, and we now share these inserted sequences.

When I think of this, I wonder if other animals are also 99% and also I immediately think of the excipient list in vaccines, in which vaccine producers seem to be trying to infect us with the viruses of other species of animals.   How closely are we related to weasels, and ferrets?  We give them our vaccines for testing, not apes.

If you have not read the CDC's excipient list, it literally contains Chinese hamster ovaries, human embryonic lung cell cultures, guinea pig cell cultures, African green monkey kidney, chicken fibroblasts, fetal bovine serum, chick embryo cell culture, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts, and much more.  You might tell me if you think they are filled with viruses that have not 'crossed over' to humans yet, or maybe give me a reason for them being in a vaccine, at all?

A vaccine should be water, and antigens. 

I did not read the link, but I did your summary.  Oh, and why not 100%?  Why just 99%?

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7 minutes ago, Sparks said:

I did not read the link, but I did your summary.  Oh, and why not 100%?

Because humans and chimps most likely diverged roughly 5 million years ago. There is a small percentage of ERVs unique to both lineages that are presumed to have occurred since divergence.

Edited April 16, 2021 by one.opinion

[Sparks]

9 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Because humans and chimps most likely diverged roughly 5 million years ago. There is a small percentage of ERVs unique to both lineages.

I would say a trillion, myself. 

You realize, you have no proof of the lineages you described about age, or that we are from apes.  This is the problem with your evidence.  It's actually speculation.

By the way, DNA barcoding shows we all showed up 100,000 years ago, according to mDNA.  They counted generations based on mDNA.  That's to say, just about every 'kind' of animal you can name did not evolve from one another, but showed up at about the same time.

Did you read that white paper?