By His stripes we are healed of what?

[Frits]

19 minutes ago, Whyme said:

No need for that. You are out of line. 

Since I encourage you to lay hands on the sick and pray with them, am I going too far?
I offer you my sincere apology.
You and I probably aren't talking about the same Gospel, so we don't understand each other very well.

 God bless

[Your closest friendnt]

3 hours ago, Waggles said:

This is prophecy of what was to come after Golgotha and Jesus being glorified in heaven > the outpouring of the Holy Spirit > gifts of the Holy Spirit for the benefit and comfort of the Spirit-filled church > these signs shall follow them that believe the gospel.

Prophecy concerning that we shall be healed spiritually, emotionally and bodily according to our faith and the will of God working within us (and others). 

Thus we have the salvation of our souls along with people being healed from depression or anxiety; violence, witchcraft, drug addiction, diseases and ailments. 

1Cor 2:4  and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 
5  so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. 

Isaiah 53:4,5 

It does sets the tone about a coming departure from something unto something new. 

The only people who had something and are directly affected are those who were under the Law. 

It's about the people who were under the Sinai Covenan. 

Within that Covenant the Lord was punishing the guilty and their children with sickness. 

The children paid the price for the sins of their parents. 

The sins of the parents were upon their children up to the third and forth generation. 

But that will stop when someone recieves the stripes.

In the new Covenant Jesus paid for the sins, he received the punishment. 

That stops the sickness coming on the children from God because of the sins of their fathers, who were still guilty for their sins. 

Also the sinner who was still guilty for his sin, also was punished with sickness. 

The people of the Old Covenant were living with that fear.

We know that there was not a partial change in the Covenant but that the old Covenant had to be set aside to make room for the new.

And in the new Covenant there is not such a thing as in the old.

That God punished the sinner or his children for his sins.

Jesus paid for the sins and of the sinner.

In the new Covenant the sinner is not punished with sickness because of guilt and not his children. 

We do not live under that fear.

We cannot say that our sickness is the result of  guilt or our children are sick as a result from the guilt of the parents as in the old.

Jesus Christ is still healing today as always.

He has not changed , he is still the same as always, we are in the New Covenant. 

 

[Whyme]

4 minutes ago, Frits said:

Since I encourage you to lay hands on the sick and pray with them, am I going too far?
I offer you my sincere apology.
You and I probably aren't talking about the same Gospel, so we don't understand each other very well.

 God bless

Not the same gospel, another insult,thanks

[Whyme]

6 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Isaiah 53:4,5 

It does sets the tone about a coming departure from something unto something new. 

The only people who had something and are directly affected are those who were under the Law. 

It's about the people who were under the Sinai Covenan. 

Within that Covenant the Lord was punishing the guilty and their children with sickness. 

The children paid the price for the sins of their parents. 

The sins of the parents were upon their children up to the third and forth generation. 

But that will stop when someone recieves the stripes.

In the new Covenant Jesus paid for the sins, he received the punishment. 

That stops the sickness coming on the children from God because of the sins of their fathers, who were still guilty for their sins. 

Also the sinner who was still guilty for his sin, also was punished with sickness. 

The people of the Old Covenant were living with that fear.

We know that there was not a partial change in the Covenant but that the old Covenant had to be set aside to make room for the new.

And in the new Covenant there is not such a thing as in the old.

That God punished the sinner or his children for his sins.

Jesus paid for the sins and of the sinner.

In the new Covenant the sinner is not punished with sickness because of guilt and not his children. 

We do not live under that fear.

We cannot say that our sickness is the result of  guilt or our children are sick as a result from the guilt of the parents as in the old.

Jesus Christ is still healing today as always.

He has not changed , he is still the same as always, we are in the New Covenant. 

 

not sure what fear has to do with this. I'm not afraid to die. Some days I welcome it.

[Your closest friendnt]

2 minutes ago, Whyme said:

not sure what fear has to do with this. I'm not afraid to die. Some days I welcome it.

You are doing good not to be afraid of death, and the reason is not mind over matter, but because when absent from the body we are with the Lord in Heaven. We are in our Heavenly Inheritance. 

The point I made in my previous post was : that the Israelites who were under the Sinai Covenant leaves with the fear that the Lord will punish them with sickness, them and or their children for their not atone sins. 

For those sins and not all sins could be atoned. 

In the new Covenant we do not have the fear that we will be punished with the sickness because of sins, because Jesus Christ was punished with the lashes and has the stripes in his back to prove it. 

God is not punishing anyone today for his sins.

Believer or unbeliever. 

He paid the price for all, so non will be punished with sickness from God from his sins. 

 

[Frits]

17 minutes ago, Whyme said:

not sure what fear has to do with this. I'm not afraid to die. Some days I welcome it.

I know Whyme that you are neither scared nor should you be afraid of anything, but I would like to argue with you.
Sorry for being so blunt with you with my sharp response.

Because I was allowed to pray with two people and lay hands on that — after an examination in the hospital were declared healthy, praise the Lord Jesus! —I may of course not demand that of you.
But we Christians can help each other, okay?

Connected in the love of our Savior Jesus Christ.

 Frits

[Whyme]

I'm tired of struggling with this. Some days are hard and the lord is my strength but why do I struggle so? Why must this erode my faith? I'm tired.

[Your closest friendnt]

28 minutes ago, Frits said:

I know Whyme that you are neither scared nor should you be afraid of anything, but I would like to argue with you.
Sorry for being so blunt with you with my sharp response.

Because I was allowed to pray with two people and lay hands on that — after an examination in the hospital were declared healthy, praise the Lord Jesus! —I may of course not demand that of you.
But we Christians can help each other, okay?

Connected in the love of our Savior Jesus Christ.

 Frits

Some times I look at what happened outside the gate to the Temple. 

When the paralytic man was healed by Peter. 

There is a number of things we can learned. 

One of them is first and the most important that the healing happened out side the gate of the Temple.  

The blessing of the Temple had been lifted at the time Jesus Christ died on the Cross. When he said tetelested, one thing that was finished was the Sinai Covenant and the sacrifices in the Temple by the Priests for the forgiveness of sins. 

Jesus Christ show a sign that he did the miracle outside the Temple. 

Jesus Christ did not want to go into the temple because God had nothing to do with the Temple worship anymore. 

And the people or the institution that run it.

The old Covenant was Judge the people who were his people there are not his people anymore, from now on they were in their sins. 

The sacrifices the continue to offer in the Temple did not atoned their sins anymore. 

They were in their sins.

To them Peter preached the Gospel in the day of Penticost, and they show them selves in their sins, and they seek to believe Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins, they show Jesus shedding his blood, the blood of the new Covenant for the forgiveness of their sins. 

The bottom line is they show them selves in their sins.

Stripped from the righteousness of the Law, they found that the Sanctification they had from the Temple sacrifices was not bless by God anyone and they reach out to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins. And God welcome them as he welcomed Paul later on, he left their sins unpunished because he knew that Jesus Christ was punished for their sins and he had the marks of the lashes to prove it, and the woulds on his body to prove as a positive identification that it is him, the one they took down from the Cross and they clean his body before they wrap it up with linen as their custom. 

Edited March 1, 2021 by Your closest friendnt

[Justin Adams]

7 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus Christ show a sign that he did the miracle outside the Temple.

That is a very good point and very telling!!

[Whyme]

We share christs sufferings. He bore our sickness. Does that mean we can share in that?