Riverwalker Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, teddyv said: Yes, but God did delegate certain authority to humanity at creation. To rule over the world, subdue it, and steward it. Speaking of making sense, this is a tough one to parse. Your wording suggests the God does not have to make sense? Like not rational sense? Or do you mean something else. Point one God does not delegate the Authority of His Truth, Because He is the truth. "I am the way the truth and the light" -Jesus Point 2 God is so far beyond our ability to reason him out with our own understanding, that we cannot possible comprehend the fullness of Him Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 1 Corinthians 1: 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: So you think God let Paul hijack his bible...... srsly? all because this scripture offends you? No, Paul hijacked nothing. He teaches us important things, but he was not divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: No, Paul hijacked nothing. He teaches us important things, but he was not divine. Again what is your criteria for deciding that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, Riverwalker said: Again what is your criteria for deciding that? Some things are self-evident. One of those things is that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are divine - Paul is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, johnthebaptist said: Some things are self-evident. One of those things is that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are divine - Paul is not. So then you are deciding, on your own which parts of the word of God is true and which parts are not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: So then you are deciding, on your own which parts of the word of God is true and which parts are not? No. Everything God and Jesus said is true. The history is true. The New Testament epistles and other wisdom books are genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: No. Everything God and Jesus said is true. The history is true. The New Testament epistles and other wisdom books are genuine. But you...of your own accord have set that criteria, right? Ostensibly because you find some scriptures hard to swallow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regenerated-Adult Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: But you...of your own accord have set that criteria, right? Ostensibly because you find some scriptures hard to swallow? Except, John, that Paul said all scripture is inspired by God and Peter said that Paul's writings were God breathed, and inspired by the Holy Spirit, which is God. So there's something fundamentally wrong where and when you make Jesus seperate from God and the Holy Spirit, because they are all God at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: But you...of your own accord have set that criteria, right? Ostensibly because you find some scriptures hard to swallow? I believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are divine. I believe Paul is not divine. You may agree, you may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted February 22, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, johnthebaptist said: I believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are divine. I believe Paul is not divine. You may agree, you may not. No is saying that Paul is divine. that was rather slippery of you. The discussion is , is the whole bible inspired by the Holy Spirit or is it not And your belief is that it is not. That Paul cracked off some lies and God allowed them in the one book that all Christianity leans to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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