R. Hartono Posted March 22, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) "Watch out! Don't let your hearts be dulled by carousing and drunkenness, and by the worries of this life. Don't let that day catch you unaware, like a trap. For that day will come upon everyone living on the earth. Keep alert at all times. And pray that you might be strong enough to escape these COMING HORRORS and stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36. What does this mean to you and why God warned us if it (the COMING HORRORS of great tribulation) will trap us anyway ? Edited September 9, 2021 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchman Posted March 22, 2021 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 15 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 66 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 69 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/15/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2021 "That day" is the day of His return, not the destruction of Jerusalem, since it would "come on all" earth-dwellers (v. 35). Jesus did not want His disciples to be unprepared for His return. He did not want them to be so self-indulgent and selfish that they disregarded His return. In that case, it might catch them "like a trap." Even though believers should be able to anticipate the Lord's return by the signs that precede it (vv. 10-11, 25-26), they may become so entangled in the affairs ("worries") "of life" that they lose sight of it. (Constables expository notes) Matthew 24 is a great chapter that goes into much more detail on this subject. I think you would find it very interesting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 22, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, watchman said: "That day" is the day of His return, Whats to fear about it if that day is the day of His return (2nd coming) which means a good news to all the inhabitant of the earth because Jesus 2nd coming will end the great tribulation instead of being as SNARE that traps the whole world ? Edited March 22, 2021 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleReader Posted March 22, 2021 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 98 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 32 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/25/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2021 10 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Whats to fear about it if that day is the day of His return (2nd coming) which means a good news to all the inhabitant of the earth because Jesus 2nd coming will end the great tribulation instead of being as SNARE that traps the whole world ? This is a great question. Could it have something to do with the original question the disciples had asked Jesus? "And they asked him, “Teacher, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when these things are about to take place?”" (Luke 21:7) If so, Matthew's account expounds on the question a little further: "what will be the sign of your coming". (Matthew 24:3) Many believe that Jesus' coming will spark the beginning of the end time which will bring about grave conditions on earth along with the great tribulation. It seems as though being weighed down with anxieties and overeating during that time will only hinder a person from escaping what's destined to occur. Instead allowing worry to dominate one's thinking, constant prayer and supplication will be essential according to Jesus' words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleReader Posted March 22, 2021 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 98 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 32 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/25/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, R. Hartono said: "Watch out! Don't let your hearts be dulled by carousing and drunkenness, and by the worries of this life. Don't let that day catch you unaware, like a trap. For that day will come upon everyone living on the earth. Keep alert at all times. And pray that you might be strong enough to escape these coming horrors and stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36. What does this mean to you and why God warned us if it will trap us anyway ? In my limited understanding, the day comes upon "everyone" but the trap ensnares most, not everyone. Some, although relatively few, will be spiritually "strong enough to escape." (I say relatively few will escape in light of Luke 13:24) Edited March 22, 2021 by BibleReader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted March 22, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.64 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, BibleReader said: In my limited understanding, the day comes upon "everyone" but the trap ensnares most, not everyone. Some, although relatively few, will be spiritually "strong enough to escape." (I say relatively few will escape in light of Luke 13:24) Yes, it will take that 'extra oil' to keep the lamp lit, so to stay in the light during those days. If we don't have enough oil, our light goes out and we are forced to go out 'into the world', that world now under the control of "the prince that shall come" as told in Dan 9. And that's a trap, for sure. God even told us that the days had to be shortened or else EVEN Gods elect (those with the extra oil) would be deceived, so those without it, they won't hardly stand a chance but instead will be taken by the deception, the deceiver, the desolator, aka overcome by the overcomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 9 hours ago, SONshine said: Don't fall asleep spiritually at this time in your life. It may not be about this time but about the coming horror time : "... and pray that you might be strong enough to escape these coming horrors and stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 11 hours ago, DeighAnn said: God even told us that the days had to be shortened or else EVEN Gods elect (those with the extra oil) would be deceived, so those without it, they won't hardly stand a chance but instead will be taken by the deception, the deceiver, the desolator, aka overcome by the overcomer. Imho the elects here means the woman (Israelites) fled from Judea to the wilderness and nourished for 3,5 years, not the wise virgins taken to the Feast of the Lamb (great multitude of Rev 7:9). Rev 12:14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. From the time of the AOD it will be cut short 3,5 years by Jesus 2nd coming to Armageddon battle to fight for the world. Blessings in Jesus name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted March 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 8:33 PM, R. Hartono said: "Watch out! Don't let your hearts be dulled by carousing and drunkenness, and by the worries of this life. Don't let that day catch you unaware, like a trap. For that day will come upon everyone living on the earth. Keep alert at all times. And pray that you might be strong enough to escape these coming horrors and stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36. What does this mean to you and why God warned us if it will trap us anyway ? It means just what it says. It is easy for saints (born again ones) to allow the cares of life to cause their relationship to Jesus to dim. I think this verse hints that even born again people can be left behind when He comes FOR His saints on that day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2021 Do not get caught up in what this earth has to offer. Do not get distracted by our fleshly needs and desires. We will stand before Christ and He will judge everything we have done while we were on this earth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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