There are words I have never heard in the bible

[Sparks]

1 minute ago, David1701 said:

If you are not doing what you should be doing, or if you are doing it with the wrong heart, then you are sinning.  That is not hard to understand.

I know that's your opinion, but I am just waiting for you to back it with scripture.

[leah777]

50 minutes ago, Sparks said:

No.

There are a great big list of sins if you count the 613, but there is not one about minding your own business while you eat cereal.  Now if you stab your neighbor in the eye instantly killing him while you eat cereal, that's another matter.

You dont understand the point.

Being an unbeliever is a sin. Full stop. Regardless of any other sin or not sin. 

What do you call sin?

[Sparks]

1 minute ago, leah777 said:

You dont understand the point.

Being an unbeliever is a sin. Full stop. Regardless of any other sin or not sin. 

What do you call sin?

I do understand the point you are trying to make, but do you understand that there people who do believe in God, but still have rejected His gift of salvation?

Satan and demons certainly believe in God, they just don't side with Him and there are people who side with Satan, who entirely believe in God, yet prefer Satan.  I think that sad, but it's a fact.  They are called Satanists.

A sin occurs when you break God's moral laws, such as Mosaic Law.  The moment you are born, you inherit Adam's sin, which includes death.  

I would just like to see some 'the meter running' scripture, please.

[leah777]

By 'believer in God' I mean Born Again Christian. 

'unbeliever' mean the unsaved, the ones who have rejected salvation.

[Sparks]

15 minutes ago, leah777 said:

By 'believer in God' I mean Born Again Christian. 

'unbeliever' mean the unsaved, the ones who have rejected salvation.

Yes, and to reject Salvation you must have done so until the very moment of your death.  Once you cross over into death, then you are one of the lost.  Putting the choice are even declining for a while, which is unwise, does not make automatically you one of the lost.

[leah777]

3 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Yes, and to reject Salvation you must have done so until the very moment of your death.  Once you cross over into death, then you are one of the lost.  Putting the choice are even declining for a while, which unwise, does not make you one of the lost.

I am unsure of the communication difficulties going on with us, but I wish you peace and blessings on your journey with God.

[Sparks]

2 minutes ago, leah777 said:

I am unsure of the communication difficulties going on with us, but I wish you peace and blessings on your journey with God.

Than you, and to you as well.  God bless.

[Sparks]

49 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

Oh yeah. I will give you one of the most definitive,  no wiggle room verses possible :

Romans 9: 22-23:

" What if God, willing to shew His wrath, and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had afore prepared unto glory".  

Let's just give God all the glory for a change!

Is this not describing Israel from their prior covenant with God, when God didn't extend salvation to all nations?  Pretty much the rest of the world was Israel's enemy at the time?

In fact, in this same book only a few lines down doesn't it say:

Romans 9:25-26 (NLT)

25 Concerning the Gentiles, God says in the prophecy of Hosea,

“Those who were not my people,
I will now call my people.
And I will love those
whom I did not love before.”

26 And,

“Then, at the place where they were told,
‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called
‘children of the living God.’”

Now I understand God hardened Pharaoh's heart with great purpose as an enemy to His people, and God certainly can do whatever He wishes, but do you have some scripture that says Jesus will reject people who wish to be saved, who want to accept His gift of salvation or Biblical evidence that His gift was not meant for everyone who wants it? 

As far as I understand it, Jesus died for us all.

[popsthebuilder]

5 hours ago, Ozarkbound said:

Luke 18:18Then a certain ruler asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 19“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone. 

According to Christ, none of us are good. We are all sinners. Those of us who are saved have received the free gift of salvation. We are fortunate, not good.

That is calvinistic and makes GOD out as evil.

Also not too biblical as it is the will of GOD that all be reconciled.

[David1701]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

Like I said, a little scripture would help.   There are people who will decline the gift of salvation, for sure. It happens all the time, sadly.  The elect chose the gift. 

Do you have scripture where God said he would choose us, while choosing others for hell? Again, not negative inference, but a direct statement?

I said nothing about choosing anyone for hell.  Election is to salvation, not hell.

Everyone is, by default, a child of wrath who deserves hell; however, God has, in his mercy, chosen some out of that mass of hell-deserving humanity, for salvation.  The rest do not need to be chosen, since they will simply get justice.

Eph. 2:3 (EMTV) among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the senses, and were by nature children of wrath, as also the rest.

Rom. 11:5-8 (ESV)

 5 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
  6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. 

  7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened,
  8 as it is written, 

“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that would not see
and ears that would not hear,
down to this very day.”

1 Thess. 1:4,5 (EMTV)

 4 knowing, beloved brothers, your election by God.
  5 For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, just as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.

2 Thess. 2:13,14 (EMTV)

13 But we are obligated to give thanks to God always for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation, through sanctification of the Spirit and belief in the truth,
  14 to which He called you through our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 13:48 (EMTV) ow when the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.