The relationship

[johnthebaptist]

17 hours ago, Aries2020 said:

Greetings,

Born again. 

Baptised in water. 

Baptised in the Holy Spirit. 

Why do you think we need to be born again, baptised in water and receive the Holy Spirit? What is the purpose between them?

Being born again, I think, is the realization and acceptance of God as our king. I think the water baptism might be symbolic of our experiences, thoughts, and emotions. The Holy Spirit, I believe, is God himself, when he is communicating with us.

[Aries2020]

7 hours ago, Whyme said:

I like to think of the secret place that David mentioned in his Psalms. Colossians 3 says to look at the hidden things in heaven not on earth and says that our life is hidden there with Christ in God. Is this secret place in our hearts? Is it joy and peace? I dont yet know but it puts a smile on my face thinking about it. 

amen that is so true it reminds me of 2 Corinthians 5.17 when it says if any man be in Christ he is a new creature old things are passed away behold all things have become new.

Isn't it amazing how the creator of the universe, took time out to be concerned about our insignificant lives and removed our past history and gave us a clean slate to begin our journey of trail and error.

[Aries2020]

6 hours ago, Marathoner said:

We were chosen by the Lord before the world was made, ordained by God to be conformed to the image of His Son. This is our salvation in Jesus Christ for all things are finished in the sight of the Almighty who knows the end from the beginning.

As the scripture testifies there is an appointed time for every matter under heaven; just as it pleased our Father in heaven to send His Son to be born to a woman under the Law (the Word made flesh), it pleases the Lord to reveal Himself to us in the fullness of time. 

Yes, there is a transition. I think of this transition as walking in the knowledge and will of His Spirit. When the Spirit of God came to me when I was close to death, the Lord was pleased to reveal Himself. This was that work which God ordained to display in me. He promised that I would never taste death; He would restore that which was taken from me in a measure exceeding the first. This was so Christ might be glorified, for there was another who bore witness to these things. 

She belonged to Him and this was also for her sake, so she might believe. 

When my healing was complete according to the promise the Lord lifted me up and completed that transition, baptizing me with fire and Spirit.  
 

amen wow that is amazing testimony, when i read or hear that God knows the end from the beginning there are so many questions that cross my mind as to why this and what about that.

But then i am comforted by another scripture that says be still and know that I am God it helps to put away my concerns and reminds me he has our best interests at heart. Psalms 46.10 (my grand daughters name is Psalms). 

Edited April 2, 2021 by Aries2020

[Aries2020]

On 4/3/2021 at 4:15 AM, Marathoner said:

This is something all three of us --- you, @Aries2020, and myself --- share in common. There are many more, sister. Over the years I've been blessed to meet brothers and sisters with a testimony like ours. This bears witness to the following truth, something we find expressed throughout the scriptures:

The Lord God Almighty refines us like silver in the furnace and tries us like gold is tried. Thus we are always learning and growing, being conformed to the image of the One who chose us by His Spirit from glory to glory. The Lord is the Potter and we are clay in His hand, to do with as He sees fit. 

I look and see others undergoing the fiery trial and tribulation, and I remember what it was like to walk in their shoes. I thought the Lord hated me! Surely He despises me for all I can do is wrong and fall flat upon my face over, and over again. I couldn't comprehend what was taking place, so what would I have said to the one who came to me in my affliction and proclaimed,

"Rejoice, for the Lord loves you like no other!" 

I might have said, "Huh? Are you daft? Are bats loose in your belfry? The Lord doesn't love me, He hates me!"  

Amen and amen that reminds of a story in 1986 when I was tested the entire day.

My car broke down near work when I returned it had been hit and the driver had left there was about $800 dollars’ worth of damage, I dint have any insurance.

When I opened my car door some had left a business card inside the driver’s window that said I saw who hit your car call me. 

The mechanic that towed my car just around the corner replaced my stater motor and over charged me.

When I questioned his excessive bill, he went ballistic and beat me up. 

I called the number on the card and the man worked at a carburettor business just around the corner he told what he saw and gave me the registration number of the car.

I went and reported it to the police but they said there’s not much they could do, but they gave me the address and said go and see the owner of the car.   

I went to the address found the car with the registration plate, and there was not one scratch on it or any damage I thought that’s going to be hard to prove this vehicle hit my vehicle and left.   

As I was driving home on the freeway, I put my foot down and my back right tire began to strip the tread off the tire so I pulled over. 

I called the freeway service number who sent a guy out but he said do you have stranded wheel nuts as this is a mag wheel and the nuts won’t fit your spare tire I said no.

I had to limp home with the car in that condition, but I finally made it home. 

Finally, I walked up to the front door it was really late and when I opened the fly screen door the mechanism above the door that closes the door when you let it go, just fell apart.

Then I went inside had a quick prayer said thanks for the day, and had the best sleep.

So that day of trials and tribulations stands out for me lol.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Aries2020

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, Aries2020 said:

amen that is so true it reminds me of 2 Corinthians 5.17 when it says if any man be in Christ he is a new creature old things are passed away behold all things have become new.

Isn't it amazing how the creator of the universe, took time out to be concerned about our insignificant lives and removed our past history and gave us a clean slate to begin our journey of trail and error.http://omegazine.com/stuff/maker.html

Yes amen.

[Aries2020]

5 hours ago, Marathoner said:

To draw it all together in a manner befitting the topic, the relationship defines the difference between our ignorance and the knowledge of His Spirit. When I didn't understand the chastisement and discipline of the Lord, I despaired of living because I was convinced of my failure in Christ.

And then I learned how mistaken I was because I labored in my own ignorance. Discipline is never pleasant when it is received; it's only afterward when that fruit which is pleasing to God appears that we begin to understand. 

The fiery trial and tribulation are far from over: after one ends the next begins. What's the difference between then and now? I walk in the knowledge of His Spirit and so the Lord reveals the trial to come. 

amen i have learnt no matter what condition i am in, to just be content and say praise the Lord i have no other recourse besides that.

[Aries2020]

3 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Being born again, I think, is the realization and acceptance of God as our king. I think the water baptism might be symbolic of our experiences, thoughts, and emotions. The Holy Spirit, I believe, is God himself, when he is communicating with us.

amen i like that, do you think the born again experience is for the inside of our vessels and water baptism is for the outside of our vessels and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is to empower and equip our vessels to minister and be witnesses of his glory and grace? what do you think?  

[johnthebaptist]

9 minutes ago, Aries2020 said:

amen i like that, do you think the born again experience is for the inside of our vessels and water baptism is for the outside of our vessels and the baptism of the Holy Spirit is to empower and equip our vessels to minister and be witnesses of his glory and grace? what do you think?  

I think the born again experience is starting our lives over, only this time, God is in charge.

I think the water baptism is symbolic of the many challenges we deal with in life.

The Holy Spirit is God - we need to walk with him.

[Aries2020]

11 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

I think the born again experience is starting our lives over, only this time, God is in charge.

I think the water baptism is symbolic of the many challenges we deal with in life.

The Holy Spirit is God - we need to walk with him.

amen yes God is our source, yes God helps us over come our trails and tribulations, yes walking in the Spirit honours our God, amen.

[Aries2020]

20 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

It symbolizes a new Life like a baby being born out of the womb when the womb water content burst out.

amen new life, new creation, new beginning.