1 Timothy 4, who are these people?

[Whyme]

Paul thought it was necessary to tell Timothy to point this out to the flock. But who are these people that Paul warns Timothy about?. 

 

1 Timothy 4 New International Version (NIV)

4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

6 If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters,[a] you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 

Edited April 27, 2021 by Whyme

[R. Hartono]

Some denominations forbids eating pork while most of them abusing Tithe.

 

Edited April 28, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Whyme]

6 hours ago, Josheb said:

Doesn't the scriptures just quoted answer the question asked? 

"Those people" were those living in the "latter times" who abandoned the faith, followed deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. hose teachings apparently did not come directly from demons but through hypocritical liars whose consciences had been seared. Examples of their false teachings were not to marry and abstinence from certain foods.... 

 

The scriptures quoted answer the question asked. What's your point of inquiry or comment relevant to this passage?

The scripture doesnt say what these people were called, where they lived or when they lived. Thats why i asked.

[Waggles]

15 hours ago, Whyme said:

 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

Roman Catholic clergy are forbidden to marry and in the bad old days we were not allowed to eat red meats on Fridays

Also the SDA are vegetarians I believe and also have a no meats diet - even have their own commercial healthfood brand here in Oz "Sanitarium" and they make 'Weetbix' breakfast cereal.

Other denominations forbid tea and coffee and so on, but the above two are probably the best known examples of who are these people Paul writes of in prophecy.

[Waggles]

15 hours ago, Whyme said:

 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

Roman Catholic clergy are forbidden to marry and in the bad old days we were not allowed to eat red meats on Fridays

Also the SDA are vegetarians (I believe) and also have a no meats diet - even have their own commercial healthfood brand here in Oz "Sanitarium" and they make 'Weetbix' breakfast cereal.

Other denominations forbid tea and coffee and so on, but the above two are probably the best known examples of who are these people Paul writes of in prophecy.

[Whyme]

10 minutes ago, Josheb said:

It most certainly does say when they lived and nowhere did I ever say where they lived. You have once again put words into my posts I did not write. The passage does say those people will "abandon the faith". They cannot abandon that which they never had. 

 

You and I just got done in a pair of threads in which you were unnecessarily contentious and eventually apologized. Are you going for a third now? 

 

They lived in "the latter times." The latter times existed in the first century.
Who knows where they lived but they lived somewhere where Timothy would be able to know of them.
Whatever their calling was or wasn't the abandoned their faith. 

 

Ah, yes, Josh, now that I read what Paul actually wrote I see you are correct. Thanks. 

Or not. 

You choose. 

 

 

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So they could have lived any time in the past 2000 years.

Edited April 28, 2021 by Whyme

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, Josheb said:

How would that be relevant to Timothy? How would people loving 500, 100, 1500, and/or 2000 years later be relevant to Timothy's life? Why would Timothy have any direct regard for people living long after he was dead and gone to heaven? 

You may have a point.